Lightroom - Camera Raw: Pattern Appearing After Using Crop Tool

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I'll start from the beginning.

I took a series of 150 pictures last night to create star trails. I opened them in Lightroom 5.7 and edited them and saved to DNG, as usual. Later, I started loading all 150 images into Photoshop. Once Photoshop finished, I selected the files and switched the blend mode to Lighten and flattened. That is when I noticed an odd pattern in my images (looks like a grid). See image:


I was able to narrow the culprit down to ration in Lr/ACR's crop tool.
The issue appears in both Ps CS6 and Ps CC 2014 after using the Lr/ACR rotation in the crop tool. To be sure it was not graphics related, I turned off GPU acceleration and restarted Photoshop - the problem still occurred.

I have made a video further explaining the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVDV...

Thank you,
Benjamin
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Here is my system information:
Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.0.1 (13.0.1.3 20131024.r.34 2013/10/24:21:00:00) x64
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1
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Memory used by Photoshop: 97 %
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OpenCL Unavailable
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Video Card Memory: 2048 MB
Video Rect Texture Size: 16384
Serial number: 92628701083275729842
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\
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Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
F:\, 931.5G, 705.8G free
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Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS6 (64 Bit)\Required\
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Required plug-ins:

3D Studio 13.0.1 (13.0.1.3 x001)
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Optional and third party plug-ins: NONE

Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
Flash:
Mini Bridge
Kuler
Installed TWAIN devices: NONE
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Are you using any Lens Profile Correction?
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Hi Eric, I am not using the lens corrections feature. Using that causes a similar issue: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1637596

Benjamin
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Benjamin, if you turn off crop/rotation in Lightroom, do the blending of the (uncropped) results in Photoshop -- resulting in a new TIFF or PSD file -- and then crop/rotate that result in Lightroom, does the grid artifact go away?
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No grid artifact when crop/rotation is used after the blend mode are applied.
It is not visible in the raw files either, until it is enhanced by Photoshop's blend modes.

I will also try saving the cropped and rotated raws as .tiff, then stack in Photoshop. I suspect it will be the same, as it didn't help with the other issue I found in profile corrections a few months ago.

Would you like a few raw files for your testing?
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Benjamin, thanks for the offer of test files -- but we can reproduce the issue internally as well, so there's no need at this time.  Unfortunately I don't have a good / direct solution for you at this time.  Sorry.
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You're welcome..

That is fine, I can make due with rotation and cropping in Photoshop for the time being. Thank you for looking into the issue and doing whatever you can.

Benjamin