Lightroom Classic: Oversaturated images

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I have been using UFRaw for the last10 years to proces my RAW images. I recently (last three months) I have started experimenting with LR. Problem is that I can't get the colors right in LR. Colors are always oversaturated. When developing the same raw file in LR and only attaching my cameraprofile to it and exporting the image to a jpg or tif, colors are terrible. When I do the same thing in UFRaw I get natural colors. An adobe agent told me that LR shows the 'native' colors. He also said that LR uses Prophoto and when eporting using the sRGB option the two profiles work together which is complete nonsense in my opinion. I use a EIZO monitor that is calibrated for sRG and both images are in sRGB so profiling can't be the cause of this problem. Any ideas?
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Karin Rijpstra

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Steve Chasey

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Don't use LR7 but basics are the same in LR6 which I do use.

I shoot DNG Raw with Colour Space set as sRGB.  No problem.  Haven't found a need for using camera profile, just same basic settings used in all the bodies I've ever used (6 different generations of Pentax, plus interims).

So perhaps its the core settings you are using that LR7 is struggling with but UFRaw hasn't.
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Renato Richina

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Which version of LR you use?
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Karin Rijpstra

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lr 7.3
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Have you tried a different camera profile as a starting point? I have used RAW files from different cameras of several brands and in my experience Lr interpret the different RAW files quite differently. For example -Olympus files are barely editable with camera profiles „Adobe Standard“ or „Adobe Color“, but are easy to edit with „Camera Natural“.
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Karin Rijpstra

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I use a custom made profile for my camera (5dmk2). In both cases the same profile.
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Lightroom can use a custom camera profile, but as far as I know these are native to Adobe (Lightroom, Camera Raw), so I doubt that UFRaw  can use these. So when you say 'in both cases the same profile', what does that mean exactly?
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Yes sir, UFRaw uses custom profiles. I tell LR and UFRaw to use the same cameraprofile. Then I export from both to JPG or TIF with sRGB.
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Sorry, to continue on this path. I don't doubt that UFRaw uses custom camera profiles, but I don't think these are the same type of profiles as Lightroom's custom camera profiles (which are not icm-profiles). I checked the UFRaw website, and their custom camera profiles are icm-profiles. So can you explain exactly what you are doing when you 'tell Lightroom and UFRaw to use the same camera profile'?
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Ok, maybe we are getting somewhere now. The profile I use for UFRaw is converted from dcp to icc with the dcp2icc tool. So they are not exactly the same in the real sense. I can try to re-create the profiles using the original colochecker raw files and then see what happens. Thank you, I will be back.

Back now: I have rebuild the profile using LR to create the DNG but no succes
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You had 7.2 before, if yes, try a downgrade. I did yesterday, because of many ugly bugs in 7.3. It applies presents different than 7.2 amd i had some, where the colors were also wrong and/or oversaturaded.
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I have been trying to improve this for the last three months, also with earlier version. Have not tried the LR cc though.
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I use camera neutral as a profile to avoid adobe to spoil the photos with aggressive processing.