Lightroom: One thing that would save me hours per day

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Every day of my working life I import hundreds of shots. Currently this means three 'pre-grade' passes:

1. Auto Tone applied during import - "ballparks" my exposures. I need to have as many thumbnails on-screen as possible because LR only applies the settings to those that are being addressed by the graphics card. So, after the first screenful have lost their three little dots, scroll down a page, wait. Rinse and repeat.

2. Apply a 4:3 crop. As before, wait, scroll, repeat.

3. Apply a preset that includes a lot of settings, including lens settings, noise and sharpness, highlight, shadow, white and black levels, contrast, saturation, clarity and vibrance but not exposure (set by Auto Tone) or white balance (set in-camera). Wait, scroll, repeat.

This can take hours (literally) and there isn't a shortcut. Here's why:

a. There is NOT an option for Auto Exposure only. Auto Tone settings must be then altered by the preset.

b. There is no option for a crop in a develop preset, so I have to make that pass separately.

Why can we not set a crop factor in develop presets? It's only metadata. It's not baked in. It's just numbers...

Why can we not have an option to set Exposure to "Auto" in develop presets without all the other Basic settings being altered too?

And why do develop presets need to render in order for the metadata to be applied to all images? I understand that, Auto Tone (and the requested Auto Exposure) (would) require(s) rendering to arrive at the numerical setting but almost all other settings applied in my develop preset are purely numerical. Surely those numbers could be applied to metadata regardless of whether the image is being processed for output or not. I understand that, when an image is viewed, the render would need to take place at that stage but as it stands now, if I don't wait, scroll, wait, scroll, those images that never make it to graphics output do not have the preset applied.

The above workflow, slow as it is, saves me hours of work every day. The options I'm requesting would save me even more. Could these please be addressed?
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In the meantime, let me speed that up slightly...

> 2. Apply a 4:3 crop. As before, wait, scroll, repeat.

Select all in Grid view and select the 4:3 crop ratio in the Quick Develop panel.

> So, after the first screenful have lost their three little dots, scroll down a page, wait. Rinse and repeat.

This shouldn't be necessary. Are you saying that the auto tone never happens if you do your following steps without first scrolling through all the thumbnails?
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Hi Victoria

Yes, I apply all the settings in the Quick Develop panel in Grid view (it does save a lot of time) and, no, for any image that has not seen screen time, NONE of the settings get applied.

Now, I fully understand that the wait time is directly related to the speed of my computer and that, to make it faster, I could upgrade. I'm a professional photographer with a workflow costing me hours a day. I can't afford a new computer. However, I also know that I'm not the only one reporting develop settings not being reliably applied across a selection, regardless of whether those settings are applied via a preset or by synchronising settings, if you don't wait, scroll, wait, scroll. No screen time, no update.

The one difference, BTW, in applying a preset to one image and then syncing to other images, is that, where you apply a preset and the metadata fails to update, you can't re-apply the same preset. Seems the one thing LR does update is that a preset has been applied. If you then have to reset, start the three passes. all. over. again. At least with syncing you can try again - if you notice the settings haven't been applied before you output.

Wait and scroll is, at least, reliable. 
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Hi,

I am a bit confused. When I make changes (edits, crops, etc.) to a photo and then highlight the rest of the photos in the filmstrip (Ctrl-A) and then click the sync button (develop mode), everything can be selected in the dialog and then copied to All selected photos. I do not need any scroll and wait.
Please help me understand what I am missing...
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Shane Betts wrote: "Auto Tone applied during import - "ballparks" my exposures. I need to have as many thumbnails on-screen as possible because LR only applies the settings to those that are being addressed by the graphics card. So, after the first screenful have lost their three little dots, scroll down a page, wait. Rinse and repeat."

As Shane knows, this bug has been in LR for many years.  There have been numerous scattered reports here, but Adobe has never acknowledged the bug.  

I've consolidated all the reports into one bug report, with precise instructions on how to reproduce the problem and work around it (painfully).   I'll merge Shane's most recent report into it: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/applying-auto-tone-to-a-batch-of-photos-loses...
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Shane, regarding develop presets and crops, please add your me-too vote to this topic: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom_allow_crop_settings_in_presets.  Be sure to explain why you want this feature and why the existing mechanisms for batch cropping don't meet your needs.

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