Nikon D850 NEF or RAW with Lightroom...

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Hi There, 

I would like to know when Lightroom will be updated to work the RAW/NEF files produced by the upcoming Nikon D850.

Does anyone have information about this? 

David

[Update from John Ellis: See this Adobe post: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2017/09/support-for-the-nikon-d850-and-lightroom.html]
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Larry Fasnacht

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I have already ordered my D850 and would like to be able to make full use of the RAW files too.
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David Gallard

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Same for me :)
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I have a Nikon D850 and cannot import files to Lightroom CC 2015.12, Camera Raw 9.12.  I understand the Camera RAW is updated, but that doesn't get files imported into my Lightroom catalog.  When will Lightroom be updated?  I was told by Support Chat I could import them as DNG, that doesn't work? 

What are my options while waiting to catch up to Nikon's latest major camera release?
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Thanks for the link - I've followed the process.  While it works (I think), it truly is a major inconvenience for Lightroom users.  My whole workflow is based on Lightroom, I hope this update isn't long coming.
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DNG converter works fine but takes more time.  First you need to copy the nef files to you pc, then use the converter to find the folder. It looks empty, but confirm anyway and you can see files listed on the converter.
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Thanks Tom - Feeling really stupid now! Only 1274 left to process! So far looking very good though.
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While I appreciate there is a work around, if Adobe doesn't get this update out soon I'll be switching over to On1 or MacPhun, both of which recognize D850 Raw files.  I'm loyal to Lightroom, but being this slow after already putting out the Camera RAW update is a little hard to fathom.

PS:  I hope those shoots all opened :-)
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Lightroom has never been fast processing raw files. Hopefully it's updated with a better engine. I thought it was the problem of my old lappy then I heard other ppl complain about how slow it is even on their high-spec pc. 
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LR has never been quick and a marked difference in processing speed between my old 36mp D800 and smaller D4s / D500 files. People comment about how fast On1 Photo Raw is but my experience with the D850 files was a painfully slow import and preview rendering. If the previews were set to fast they were so poor you couldn't really see what was properly in focus. The accurate previews seemed to build in 2 stages after what I assume is the initial jpg embedded in the nef file. Each preview was taking about a minute to render on an i7 with 16Gb and an SSD. The DNG converter ran overnight and has processed all of the images but I haven't imported them into LR yet. I'll let you know how it goes later when I get back from work.
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I uploaded 400 RAW Large files from the Nikon D850 today. They were about 55Mg each. I used the DNG converter to convert the NEF files to DNG. It took 26 minutes to convert 400 files. Then imported them into Lightroom. The culling process went pretty well after that. I imported with Standard previews and unless I zoomed in I could get from one photo to the next quickly. If I zoomed in, it took about 30 seconds to render to 1:1 preview. In future, I'm going to divide the number of files by 15 and set a timer for that many minutes and come back.
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I agree with your timings. Zooming on the previews definitely takes time, but is faster than On 1 Photo Raw. Import into LR was fast but I think that was due to the fact the NEF files had been converted to DNG and were already on the HDD. I suspect import is going to get a lot slower once the LR engine has been updated and we can import straight into LR from NEF as I did with my old workflow. I am quite surprised how much noise there appears to be in the shadow areas at relatively low ISOs. I suppose this is due to size of the photosites and density. It seems to respond well to noise reduction in LR. Do you lose anything going from NEF to DNG??
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I compared PS nef import and LR dng import, and didn't notice much difference noise wise. Maybe that's because i stared at the DR too much lol. Amazed at how much detail I could recover from the highlit and the blacked out. +3 or -4 is still okay in most cases. About the grains,  they are quite okay with me too, possibly because I used its base iso. 
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