Lightroom: New version release date?

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Hello Lightroom guys, I'd like to know the official answer to these two questions:

1.- When will be available a new Lightroom ́s version? (specify date)

2. - What new functionalities it will have?
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These are the sorts of things Adobe announces to the public if and when they're ready.  There's no point in asking on a forum.
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This is not a regular user to user forum for posting gossips, this is a serious website from Adobe to receive user's feedback, I believe.

So, two questions that I find very valid to ask here.
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You can ask anything you like, but it's pretty naive to think you would get a serious answer to these questions.
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Nevertheless, Adobe is a billion-dollar company so posting information about what may or may not be happening, internally, before it's official, won't happen, here.  This is in part because if something changed in the schedule or features, it could affect the stock price and cause millions of dollars to disappear merely because something Adobe said before they were ready doesn't match what happened, later, so there is no information that will be given on a forum, in response to questions about possible future products.  Adobe officially announces what they announce in a coordinated effort via various media channels.
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I know ... I mean, if for release 6 they'd told us that the program had been rewritten to be much faster, and then it turned out to be a dog, they'd have really suffered, wouldn't they ...

Also I'd guess that, like me, the OP would be quite happy with an offical announcement ... its the fact that Adobe have said almost nothing about the future of LR that really pisses me off, for one. Are they even planning any more updates, or just milking CC as long as they can because they can't fix the performance? Or will we get LR7 with ONLY a performance gain, so it becomes what 6 was meant to be?

I believe that Adobe's *silence* is what is building up resentment, which could well result in a huge exodus if someone else comes up with a credible competitor for LR before Adobe let us know if it's worth sticking with them.
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While I agree that we won't get answers to the questions, they are good ones. Frankly, we haven't seen a real update to Lightroom in over two years. I was told by Adobe the whole purpose of going to the subscription model was to allow them to issue updates more frequently. Not happening. In the meantime, I have paid them $1200 for four apps, one of which is Lighroom. (I have the full Creative Suite at $50 month but only use four apps regularly. It's essentially the same price as getting the Photography Plan and two separate apps.) Meanwhile, Lightroom remains very slow and buggy, Adobe's competition is getting better and better to the point that I see people abandoning Lightroom, and the updates to the other apps that I use have been underwhelming. So, not only are they good questions, they are also timely and fair questions.
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Agreed ... as much as I like using Lightroom and once had high expectations that Adobe was really serious about serving photographers in a serious manner ... Over the past 2 years as a CC Photography Package subscriber, I have serious doubts that Lightroom is a sound pathway to the future for the long term.

It would appear that whatever is in store for the next iteration of Lightroom, whether that will be a full major version update, or a routine dot release that offers new camera/lens support and maybe a new buzzer or whistle addition ... we likely won't see or hear anything until the Adobe Max conference ... after all, when they are charging attendees $1,500 per for admission, they better have something worthy of a big reveal.

Which would explain why there wasn't also an update to Lightroom 6.x and Lr CC2015 when they updated ACR 9.12.1 back on Sept. 6, 2017 ... it's been a month now and I can't see how adding the support for a single new camera would cause such a delay for inclusion to Lightroom when the Develop module is the exact same underlying code in a different UI wrapper. Something more is afoot. Exactly what, is pure speculation, though.

Either way, it appears Adobe has chosen to sandbag whatever they have in store for Lightroom for a few weeks more. But, as I recall, that was one of the 'problems' with the perpetual licensing model ... it was terribly cruel to impose arbitrary deadlines that the teams had to meet for upgrade releases ... although it seems just fine for Adobe to sit on a release when it suits them.
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For me it's the right time, my subscription is about to expire and I'm considering not renewing it.
My thoughts are this:

I worked as a software developer for 25 years, and a brief inspection of the content of the .lrcat files makes me think that LR needs a huge re-engineering of the database, and I remark: huge.
LR's poor performance shows that was not ready to be released to the public.
We are actually paying for a subscription to an unfinished product.
We are acting as software testers without a wage.
We don't know if the bugs we are reporting are going to be resolved, the next release date is a mystery.
"Turn off the graphics processor", "reset the LR preferences", "shut down LR each 10 minutes" are not acceptable as a solution.
If we propose improvements to some of the current LR functions we don't know if they will be considered for implementation.

The scenario is disappointing.

The absence of an answer to my two questions pushes me to look for alternatives to LR.
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Do you not understand that you are being wholly unrealistic in expecting answers to your questions?
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The timing of any Adobe potential announcement and the company's financial health cannot be tied to when an individual user's subscription ends, even if that individual user isn't 100% satisfied with how things work with the current version, which seems to be what you're asking for.

Sure, it might be "nice" to have your feelings swayed by insider information, but it's not going to happen.

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OK guys, I posted two questions for an Adobe representative or software developer to answer.

Are you one of them? well, then your answer (or absence of it) will allow me to make a <<<personal>>> decision about whether or not to continue <<<my>>> subscription to the photography plan.

If you are just an Adobe client like me, then whatever you post in this thread helps me nothing to take that decision.  Do not distract your daily activities with this, you can press the unfollow button and stay away.
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We simply tried to explain to you that this is not the place where you can realisticly expect an answer to your questions. If you want to take a decision based on that fact anyway, then that's up to you.
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Some of us have been on here, answering questions, for many years despite us not being official employees, so we know what we're talking about, based on past history of Adobe official announcements and lack of forum information beforehand.

Of course Adobe could change their policy and start releasing internal information to satisfy people's curiosity, and not announce that change in policy to any of us, beforehand, so on the off chance that happens,  I'd suggest you check back a few seconds before you need to decide what you're gonna do about your subscription renewal and see if anyone with an Employee or Staff badge has responded, then make your final decision. 

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John - perhaps others have a different view of what's reasonable; I paid for standalone Lr 6 because Adobe touted the speed increases ... look where that got me. I believe that, by now, there are a lot of people feeling that it is Adobe that are being unreasonable.

And Steve, yes, its really appreciated that people help others out to get the most from the software. However, I felt the tone of your first response above was supercilious and somewhat obnoxious.
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Adobe will be really pleased to provide you with an official answer to both questions, by way of an official announcement at the time of release. Until that time, the information is covered by non-disclosure agreements, which I'm sure you're familiar with as a software developer yourself.

- Victoria, Adobe Community Professional
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Some users will try to "threaten" Adobe by citing their years of experience and plans to cancel their subscription thinking that might motivate an announcement regarding an upcoming upgrade or update, but that only demonstrates how naïve the person is. Adobe never announces upcoming releases in advance and all the threats in the world will not change that.
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Hey James, way to go, nice insult! That really added to the topic, didn't it.
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I've been using Lightroom CC for less than a year. I'm not a professional photographer but I can only imagine the frustration of someone who is earning their living with photography and trying to find the best tool that is not slow, confusing, and is years behind regarding using the fast, multi-core computers that have been around for years.

I am a devoted hobbyist who has captured thousands of photos this year and an unknown number of thousands over the years of my lifetime of 60+ years.
When I needed help regarding LR, and went to the Support page (https://helpx.adobe.com/contact/support.html), I found out that the forums were the only venue available to all users for those seeking help with LR or other Adobe products.

And so it is to the forums, and not to Adobe itself, that we are pointed to regarding questions about the product, bugs, improvements, etc. The forums have no regular visible participation by Adobe representatives and no promise at all that they are even monitored by Adobe personnel.

And no one here in the forum has, or could have, the answers regarding the release of bug fixes, remedies for long-standing issues (as proven by posts in the forum), or answers as to whether or not CC is worth the money that I have paid this year. Yet this forum is the venue to which we are directed for exactly these answers.

Asking about updates and fixes in this forum does not make us ignorant, stupid, or any other negative term. We are simply asking where Adobe has chosen to have us ask these questions.

I believe that Adobe is resting on its "laurels" as the long-standing "emperor" of photo editing. It thinks that it is dressed in all of its fineries and that its subjects will continue to worship it even though no one has access to the "emperor" itself and it may not be all that fine anymore.

To borrow from a children's tale in America, "The Emperor has no clothes". This discussion proves that there is something terribly wrong with Adobe's business model regarding keeping customers around. It doesn't matter that Adobe has the "right" to do so, it just isn't wise in today's marketplace. Asserting the "right" of Adobe is like asserting the "right" of Adobe to put itself out of business. More than one software company has done so over the years.

I never dreamed almost a year ago, when I was deciding which editing product to buy/subscribe to, that I would seriously think about dumping LR/PS after a year. After all, PS is the "king", the "emperor". Yet I need something far more responsive than the current help model -- which to some extent is a mixture of pooled knowledge and pooled ignorance.

The question to me is not "Why would I leave?" but instead "Why would I bother to stay?". So far, Adobe itself has given me no reason at all. I've not made up my mind yet, I have a few months to go on my subscription, but the multiple threads about Adobe's lack of availability and lack of response are concerning.
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> Asking about updates and fixes in this forum does not make us ignorant, stupid, or any other negative term. We are simply asking where Adobe has chosen to have us ask these questions.

Absolutely right Carl, and by asking here, Adobe will be hearing that everyone wants/needs an answer.

Just don’t expect that question to be answered here first, because anyone doing so would get fired. The answer has to come by way of an official announcement.

Adobe often uses their Adobe Max conference to make announcements about their future plans, and the conference is later this month, so hopefully you won’t have to wait too much longer.
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Carl this is an impressive post.  While I still have the subscription for a while longer I also own On1 Photo Raw, Luminar, Picktorial, Iridient, Affinity Photo, and probably a couple of others.  I have purchased all of these not because I am wealthy and have money to burn. I do not have money to burn.  But I love photography and at the age of 74, I also desire a minimalist way of doing things both with my Fuji X photo gear and my software. I own all of these softwares because I have been on a journey that will take me down a different road than the one I have been on for too many years. That road is the Adobe road to nowhere.I would like to stay with Adobe for only one reason and that reason is my Ipad Pro which has Adobe mobile on it which synchs to Adobe on my desktop.  And that is the only reason at this time.

In the meantime should Adobe fail to improve Lightroom this month and deliver it this month then I am happy to say that I have found alternate solutions and Adobe will be gone from my life once and for all.  I guess the answer is only a few days away.
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Should you decide to move on to a different product, I am interested in knowing which one. I suspect that what we need is similar since I am also retired and would like a competent piece of software that does not include a lot of "overkill". I don't know of a way to send personal messages to people on this forum but it looks like you are on Facebook so that would be an option.
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Carl - reach me at elliotpaulstern@gmail.com
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Greetings drobtitan,

As has been mentioned by several of our Adobe Champions in the thread above. Adobe does not comment on timetables for or content of, unreleased software. The best place to get this information will be the Lightroom Journal blog run by Adobe. It is the first source which will have information regarding released product.

Here is the link:  http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/