Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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In the light of all the removed features it is clear that Lightroom moves into the direction of a fun app. Capture One Pro here I come...
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Michael Chapman

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Yep. Me too. Already watching their tutorials. They act/look they are more interested in professionals, not iPhone and Pixoto customers.
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vinsolo

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I absolutely agree. This change is uncalled for. How cab I go back the 2015cc1.1?
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Paula Buermele

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Please, please bring back Move and Destination visibility! I have wasted hours trying to work with the new Import interface and now I am going back to the pre-update version as soon as I figure out how. Design a different application for the perceived new marketplace and restore the old Import interface of LR for the users who have invested countless hours learning the module and developing efficient workflows. This could be a deal-breaker for my subscription.
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This dumbing down is a really worrying aspect.
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Move is the most important to me. Many photo sources deliver photos and videos to my computer via Dropbox. I review them in the import dialog and select groups to MOVE to a particular permanent storage location or catalog while applying relevant keywords. I repeat until Dropbox's Camera Uploads folder is empty. With this software update, it now means I have to manually delete each import group as I go until there is nothing left, nothing forgotten, no mistakes because of manual processing. This is really much more work and frankly a tool for pro photographers should have a lot of options. If there is truly market demand for a simpler import function, make that an option rather than remove so many features that pros use.

I also use these features that have been removed/changed to be less useful:
- To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR.
- To see the destination Folders
- Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
- Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
- Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
- Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
- The filename preview (when renaming) is gone.
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how do i go back to 2015cc1.1?
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Darcee McCutcheon

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Yes,PLEASE return these features!
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It will be a huge effort for me to move from LR to another system, but if this isn't reversed I will have to seriously consider cancelling my subscription. The features you removed were important to file integrity (eject after import) and folder management (preview of destination tree). Your customers are going to end up with their images in unintended places, with folder structures like "2015/10/2015/10/2015..." without warning. See how much new users love you then.

If you feel you must compete in the "simple" marketplace, create an "expert" mode and let those of us who understand LR set things up as they need to be.

Thanks.
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I agree, Charlie. Several of the features removed in the latest update will cause more harm than good.

Even if Adobe is trying to market to a more "simple" marketplace I think you can only go so far before losing helpful information. I like seeing exactly where my images will end up, on a specific hard drive, with a specific folder structure and naming convention before import. Hopefully Adobe will add these features back into Lightroom very soon!
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I agree. I hope they add them back soon too else I am going to be a very unhappy bunny.
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Michael Chapman

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I agree as well Charlie. I've already spent a couple of hours looking at Capture One this afternoon. Completely baffled at why Adobe would dumb down the import features for "new users" and ignore professionals. Very, very frustrated at this.
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it is horrible
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This showing by Adobe is exactly what those who opposed the subscription only model feared most. Adobe chooses what they give, and what they take away.

As previously noted, Dehaze was not included in LR6. Adobe clearly stated they would not include enhancements/upgrades to the perpetual model until the next version. All this of course due to "legal" issues. The amazing 6.1 update came a few days later and did not include the new Dehaze, which of course was conceived, developed, beta tested and added to the software in a matter of days and granted to CC users with their version of the update. We all know Adobe would never delay it's release or leave it out of 6.0 on purpose.

Adobe has clearly shown they intend to dismantle the perpetual license and take away any user ability to do other than pay for what Adobe is willing to give them on a continuing basis, regardless of the quality of that product or lack thereof, or the taking away of features which we have actually already paid for.

Why would Adobe care if those using the perpetual version of LR could "figure out" how to Import files? They are after all just old sticks in the mud who won"t buy into the subscription model. So how is it they do not get enhancements or upgrades, but they can have functionality removed? Why would adobe chose to take away an existing function from the perpetual version? I see no explanation other than they wished to render LR6 unacceptable to those who might cancel their subscription and elect to go the perpetual route due to the CC changes.

I thankfully have not upgraded my perpetual version nor will I until and unless Adobe rolls back the changes they have made. I fully believe this clearly shows there will never be a LR7, and serves to clarify Adobe's position for those who may have not believed or heeded prior warning signs.

Capture One and DxO are very functional. I use both and have thankfully kept them up to date against this day. CO8 has become my processor of choice. Affinity Photo and others are interesting new participants in the industry that give users alternate choices as they continue to develop. I have a studio to run and do not have time nor do I choose to run my business based on what a company with other interests finds convenient for them at the expense of their customers.

Personally, I have been with Adobe since CS2 and LR1 beta when I switched from film to digital, and I have purchased each and every version of both products throughout the years. Adobe products have always been a staple of studio processing for me. I am sorry they do not value me as a customer but I accept that fact and move on.

MJGray
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Destination panel folders preview.

Please reinstate Destination panel folders preview - this was a chance to ensure your import was not going astray and new folders created made sense. Removing this makes little sense.
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Yes yes yes! Vital!
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This is the first step in a very very wrong direction for Lightroom. If they want to use this interface for "LR Elements", great. But they've messed with something that wasn't broken. Changing a workflow is one thing, but removing vital options from that workflow is something else entirely. I'll be sticking on the previous version until this gets fixed.
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I agree. I use all the things that were taking away. The one I'm not sure I can think of a workable solution without, is move. I really really need that feature back.

This will be the first time ever I hold updating until it gets fixed.
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I emphatically support this petition. I had noticed a number of things missing from the new dialog, but wow, it's so much worse than I first thought.

I understand the desire to make things "simpler", but please bear in mind the difference between "difficult" and "complex". Yes, less difficult is good, but less complex means less capable and that is definitely not good—at least not from the point of view of users, even if it means more code to support.
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Please restore the Move option. I can't imagine why this would have been removed in the first place, as this will have broken many people's workflows.

I hope Adobe reads and responds to these forums.
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I used Import Duplicates when reorganizing photos brought in from other sources originally managed by other people. I'd import all the photos and then figure out how to handle the duplicates within LR. Now, I have to figure it out before importing.
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This rapidly-accelerating "dumbing down" of Lightroom is a travesty. I need ALL of these import (important) features.
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Please reinstate items removed from Lightroom 6.2. You have not improved this version, but made it weaker. I am especially upset about your removal of the move option, zoom in the import loop view, and preview of the destination tree. What in the world are you thinking?
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I have always loved Lightroom for being extremely focused on good user workflow. When other Adobe software added bling, Lightroom gave us really well-thought-out features, that was truly helpful to the users.
Some brilliant UX designers have definitely worked on the Lightroom team in the past. Well I guess they don’t have that much to say anymore.

With many essential features removed and really none added it is obvious that this is a disastrous downgrade for professional customers. I agree with all the above comments, no reason to repeat that.

But if Adobe has any user testing on the software they release, I am sure photographers would have complained about this, so Adobe probably made the decision with open eyes, favouring entry users at the expense of their core users. We have seen that before.

The sad thing to me is that they probably also made it harder to use for inexperienced users. To me, the prime example of this is removing the destination panel folders preview.
In my experience, one of the hardest thing for new users to understand is exactly where Lightroom imports the files, and in what folder hierarchy. The destination folders preview at least gave a clear overview of that. Now that is gone.

Adobe: We redesigned the Import experience to make finding and importing your photos easier and more visual.

So to me the only thing easy about it, is that it is easier to make make mistakes when importing files, and the only thing more visual about it is someone else’s stock photo in the background when I want to import my own.

Here is hoping that this was just a dumb premature software release, to have something to show off at Adobe MAX.
But I am not so sure.

Adobe: The revamped Import experience is based on customer feedback and we’re excited to hear what you think.

Hopefully they are also exited about improving Lightroom based on the customer feedback they receive now. At least back to how it was before the update.
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An example of how I previously used Move was to get images out of synced folders from services like Dropbox and OneDrive.

I'm able to work around the loss of functionality by doing more file management tasks outside of Lightroom, but that feels like a step in the wrong direction.

+1 on bringing Move functionality back to Import.
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Sam

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exactly - it's like going back in time!
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i guess some PR guy at adobe thought that "add photo screen" is a nice idea to attract mobile user.... epic fail.

i wonder if you will find a single longtime LR user who thinks this was a good idea......

instead of fixing long overdue bugs adobe is wasting time on such nonsense..... :(
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For anyone who has a workflow with multiple possible destinations for imported photos (eg for professional versus personal work) the loss of easy checking of which folder an imported file is going to end up in is a deal breaker.

I do use move from time to time and import previously imported photos (as some photos will end up on the drive Iuse for personal images and on the ones for professional). I am sure there are workarounds for all these, but why should I have to change what I am doing because of a removal of functionality in what was previously a well optioned import dialogue?

I do not like the flashy distracting interface. When importing I want to concentrate on what images I am importing (and sometimes even judge them zoomed in before I Import)
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Bring back the old import dialog and all the others options that were removed. I am using all of them and it seems a lot of people are using them.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIghtroom File Import Upgrade a Step Back.

The new lightroom release does not clearly show the destination folder for imported photos. This is a real problem for folks who import to lots of different directories, depending on the jobs the photos were shot for.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom 2015.2 import dialog.

I'm stunned. Just stunned.

How the x could Adobe come up with a travesty of an import dialog like they did?? The old one was fine, there was NOTHING wrong with it! The new one is... well, I don't want to trigger adult filters the world over by speaking out loud about that car wreck of a change.

PLEASE tell me that you got drunk, didn't know what you were doing and that this will be reverted ASAP to the old dialog! And I do mean ASAP, this completly, totally wrecks any kind of serious workflow!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM - Bring Back the Old Import.

Bring back the old import! Why so software developers keep thinking they need to dumb down software? So much of the efforts to make it easier for newbies just makes is so much less useful for experienced people who rely on some of these features.
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This must be one of the worst UI changes I've ever seen done to a software. What the...? I don't see ANY improvement, just a lot of pitfalls for making mistakes. And with a software of this type, mistakes are very critical.

Please bring back the old dialog. At least make it optional or something, but better yet, just reverse it to the old one.
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A hundred and fifty-two thousand Adobe DNG frames and their attendant RAW originals committed to 45 terabytes of hardware and online storage and backup and now THIS?!

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!
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Agree with the others. Removing the features is part of a known and usable workflow. By making things "easier" for new users, you are making it harder for them in the long run. Improper locations, not being able to see previews for naming or folder hierarchy changes.
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There was nothing wrong with the import mechanism of LR
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Let's see if I got this right:
The "improved" interface
1. reduces functionality
2. removes information
3. slower
Next I expect Adobe to offer a $9.95 a month service to automatically revert back to earlier versions of their software that have been shown to function better
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Please reinstate the following functionalities regarding the Lightroom Import Dialog Screen.

1. Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.---this is a serious problem. I must be able to import photos one by one, and I need to enlarge each photo, one by one, to see if the photo is sharp before I import it. I don't want a bunch of unsharp photos to come into my hard drive at all. I find it overwhelming to have too many photos to process. Having that zoom tool is of utmost importance. If you do nothing else, please bring this back.

2. I need to be able to see the destination folder so that I can avoid making any mistakes on my import. I have spent too much time cleaning up messed up file trees, and your view of destination folder was what saved me. This is something you need to bring back.
3. I need to be able to MOVE photos upon import...
4. Eject After Import is gone. Please reinstate this. Extreme importance.

You might consider bringing back the import interface the way it was. It worked great. There was nothing wrong with it. If you think some of your new customers can't seem to figure it out, why not create a wizard for those people, and just leave the interface as is for your loyal, pro customers? That might be a plan which could please everyone.

I would rather not have to move to a simple userface offered by one of your competitors at a cheaper price point. I am happy to pay your price, but I need features for adult users, not for novices. I look forward to working with Lightroom for years to come, as long as LR continues to offer features for intelligent users who appreciate smart workflow management tools.

Thank you for your attention to these important matters.