Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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Mihael Tominsek

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled "great" new import dialog is clueles, cumbersome and contra-productive.

Adobe lightroom today (6th october 2015) get aukward image import dialog. It is clueless, against previous import window. Please give us back the old great (almost perfect) window wiat ALL setting visible at once, not this clueless empty screen where nothing can be seen or set or choosen without deep and time consuming digging. WHY FIX something that is not broken??

Thank you!
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Giant "Tick" on top of the thumbnails for me is a dealbreaker, as well as keyboard shortcuts not seemingly working (Couldn't use Ctrl+A to select all).

It feels like Adobe are trying to make the UI "Finger Friendly" for a fringe market of trendies that work on their tablets. Fine. But don't ruin the UI for hundreds of thousands of desktop users who have a lot of files to work with and aren't tapping on their screens with fingers. Microsoft learned this the hard way forcing Metro onto people who were quite happy with a keyboard-and-mouse friendly interface and have been working to make it function in dual mode since.

Also, 4 hours to import 1000 images with 1:1 previews on a 32gb i7@4Ghz - seems very slow to me but perhaps I'm simply being impatient and frustrated. That said I'd put up with any UI changes if the performance was up to snuff.
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Agreed. They can't be Lightroom AND Picasa. Either be the professional photography app, or be the low-end image editor... take your pick.
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In view of this thread and a preliminary review by Antoni Morganti "What's New In Lightroom 6.2 & CC2015.2" on Youtube, I will be sticking with Lightroom CC2015 1.1 until Adobe restores the import dialog to it's former functionality. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Save the simplified kiddie interface for 'Lightroom Elements'
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled revamped import is all worse.

"We redesigned the Import experience to make finding and importing your photos easier and more visual. The redesign was driven by our desire to make the import workflow more explicit and clear. The workflow is 1. Select a source, 2. Select images 3. Choose any import settings (optional) and 4. Import."

Nothing is easier now. Before I hit IMPORT and IMPORT again and all new images from SD card was imported. Now I must:

"importing your photos easier" now means:
1. Select a source,
2. Select images
3. Choose any import settings (optional) and
4. Import.

"and more visual" now means:
- I am under stress if I am still in Lightroom app or maybe craweled on a website
- I must seek and discover hidden settings (several clicks and treasure seeking where settings are are hidden)
- and do this EVERY TIME!

What is more visual against previous import where ALL settings were visible at once and you do not needed to set them every time?

I wish this "revamping" never happened. As you add good features to Adobe software we have fear every production mornig what new "puzzle" Adobe will set to us. We hate that and serious consider to leave this boat. Imagin you would have every morning the light switch somewhere else, the tootpaste in other drawer (and room), door handle at the ceiling, car would become left/right hand driving, wife will change hair to pink, etc !
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I'm also concerned about the reliance on "User Feedback" from customers, as typically the customers who are perfectly happy with a product never bother to say anything, so you end up catering to a vocal minority that don't genuinely reflect the userbase.
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I really hope, this is only a premature released version of Lightroom with unfinished feature-set. Obviously you had to meet a deadline for MAX.

So would you now please begin implementing the rest of the missing features, like:
-File rename preview
-Destination panel folders preview

Filenames and Folder-structures are essential to my workflow. As a professional I must double-check if pictures are being imported correctly before clearing the SD-Card and by seeing a preview of whats going to happen minimalizes this important task.

When importing a 64GB Card full of fresh photos, having to (check for and) correct errors ia also time-consuming.

I'm a loyal user since 2006.
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Please bring back the old import, like it was before and make it optional.
With the background usability checks already in lightroom you will see how much user will use the new one and could optimize the import again.
The old import, with some presets, was a non brainier for me and every time I must do a change, like choose a new path, the clean tree view was a big help.
Also the preview of rename is essential. Now one like to change file names in the dark :(
The new import dialog may be a good idea for first time lightroom users but is a big step backwards for all the professionals and should be a optional feature!
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I tested some of covorkers not familiar much with Lightrom. NO ONE find it intuitive. Yes, they were able to import... but just that. Where picture went, and any other setting, remained mistery.
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Can you please make the new import dialog optional or something like that? It really doesn’t work for me.
I just quickly want a list of folders and select the right one and get to work on my images.
I’m now either waiting forever for unneeded previews of the 27000+ files that are already in Lightroom, or if I just want to select a single folder I get a real small dialog with a minimal scrollbar to scroll through my library of currenty 600 folders ... I’m working on a 27 inch screen (at a resolution of 2560×1440), and if I select import -> drive, the dialog for selecting subfolders uses about 1/10 of my screen, on the left top, and the scrollbar is really small. It makes selecting the right folder quite problematic, and 9/10 of my screen is not being used.

The missing 'eject after import option' means an unnecessary extra step to the finder (MacOS X) when I'm importing from multiple cards after a shoot.

What’s wrong with the quick and easy MacOS X (in my case) dialogs which I use all day in the Adobe other software?
Please give me as a professional a quick and dirty way to import my files. I know what I’m doing ...I do it all day.
Thank you!
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Yes. Before it was clear which photos are already imported. Now only if mouse is over. I never have select all ticked because of old files on card (which I never delete until full format in camera).
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First time and big time disappointment with LR. It's indeed not an elements product but the feature complete awesomeness I always loved and paid for (standalone version). I dont see any benefit in the recent "simplification" of import. I made it much worse. Wont update to 6.2 and really hope that Adobe will listed to it's longtime customers.
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Please bring back the facility in the import dialogue to see the folder tree that is being imported.

Selecting/Unselecting folders in the tree view was a very useful means for being able to only import images taken on certain dates. Especially useful if you've forgotten to wipe your memory card between shoots.

Preview of filename was also very useful, and helped avoid unwanted mistakes on import.

Thank you!
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I must echo David Jones' post dated 05 OCT. I have a database currently with 107,509 images and they all need to be in the same catalog. I use the very powerful TTG web publisher to maintain a complex website with LR.

I frequently travel and will often have several thousand new images from a trip and will often pre-sort them on my hard drive to group them into more manageable blocks. The missing import options have certainly and negatively impacted my work flow. First thing is dis was unclick the "Add Photos" and still took me a while to find the backup "negative" functionality now labeled "make second copy to"

Overall, even with the GPU working, different thread, LR CC is no faster than 5.xx. Possibly slower, particularly with my rather large catalog.
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Adobe support pointed me to the following file:

http://prodesigntools.com/swupdl/upda...

This should restore to the previous version (with the CC app you can only go back to 2015.0, not 2015.1).
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I already reverted Lr to 2015.1 - I love it.

What was decision trigger to revert:
If "select all" is unticked there is no visual cue what images are fresh or already imported. And I hate changes that bring nothing but adaptation to it (for the sake of it).

Longer explanation:
When I import photos from media card I do not delete images or format card until I do proper backup of them. I do not backup per every image I import. So I leave all images on media card until I do backup them properly. I may make 1 or 100's of images per day, so it takes various time to fill the card or to have time to backup.

In the mean time I may already delete all rejected photos from SSD. That means next time importer would suggest to re-import thoose images.

Reason nr.1 why I untick "select all" feature: I do not want some rejected picture from past days (upper on the list) will import in the other days library. I just select new ones and than tick them to be imported.

Reason nr.2 why I untick "select all" feature: I do several imports because I rename images per content, not per day or session. I want fallback bullet proof way of finding imeges even no lightroom or smart software is near :)

And new import is clueless about what is imported unless "select all" is ticked. Before imported images were rendered darker even if unselected all.

There is half of image height space between picture rows but no name under them? Waiting half a second per image for tooltip to display and than processing the name in our brain are not more visual for me (against having all data infront of the eyes and consume split of a second to find proper item). Neither is faster than before.

2015.2 brought me headacke and unconfortness this morning when I first opened Lr in front of my customer needed some service at rush, as I was puzzled and staring at the screen. After it took me several hours crawling ther web, dealing with the change seeking solution and finaly reinstalling Lightrroom to 2015.1.

2015.2 brought dehaze as local adjustment. Great. As this way of feature implementation was already logical at it's lounch. But it is not essential to have it.

Why go through all the personal adaptation and solution seeking and workflow workarounds if that brings us only minor non-essential feature update. It's like Adobe gave us candy and hoped we will overlook the other change from which we clearly do not benefit, regardless of perspective or user experience we look at it.

I wonder if anyone can find a sole benefit from this change. And I hope this will be "de-vamped" back.
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instead of making (for example) face recognition better what is a focus.. a new IMPORT DIALOG that has features REMOVED?!!

well i rather have the old import dialog then this new reduced nonsense "add photos" screen for people who don ́t know what a drive letter is.

it ́s not even "streamlining the interface" like the PR guys wanna make us believe. it is an extra step in the workflow.

that you can disable the "add photos" screen is only a small help. wasted developing time.....

adobe should focus on polishing existing features. not introducing more beta features.

i mean.... google had better face recognition 5 years ago.

or take GPU support .. much hyped and pretty useless in LR.

i have an intel i7 system with a geforce 980 GTX and GPU support does NOTHING for me.

i have disabled it because i have lags in the grid view when it is active.

60% of the advices in this forum sound like this "disable GPU support". ....
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I have i7 with 6 core, 770GTX, 32GB/2133 RAM, 3xSSD (120+240+960GB) and Lr is slow and laggy. I hate the most waiting image to focus when clicked on, on display 2 - it needs 5-10 seconds - on display 1 it needs "only" 1-2 seconds, and we are talking images currently in development, so all previews are rendered.
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You want to help the people too lazy to learn a powerful and sophisticated tool, fine, ADD that option, but don't take away features we use and depend on! I pay real money for the use of LR. As far as I am concerned Adobe is breaking an implied contract. I now pay for less and spend more time doing the same job. Incredible.
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WELL SAID, endeed! We are paying that we struggle with software, instead Adobe would save us from stress in return we are paying them.
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Stop taking things away and calling it an "upgrade"! Bring back destination folder preview!
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Oops, this one was not thought out sufficiently guys. As a major part of my workflow to provide photos for a professional soccer team, I use this feature to ENSURE things (what the renamed files will be, where they are being stored) are CORRECT before proceeding to import for final editing.

While I have no issue with Adobe attempting to make things simpler for the more novice user, I do take GREAT EXCEPTION to implementing changes that degrade the product being used extensively by many working photographers. PLEASE provide a switch to allow the experienced users to regain this loss functionality QUICKLY.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC 2015.2: Import - Move is no longer an option.

I frequently use the "Move" action during import as part of my workflow. This is missing from the new Import actions.

Move is much more efficient and safer than copy as it only changes directory entries and does not have to to a bit for bit copy of each image.

Please reinstate this option.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC 2015.2: Import - Rename preview is gone.

This update has removed the file rename preview. This is really not a good idea as it is easy to incorrectly rename hundreds even thousands of photos and not know it until after the import is done.

Please reinstate this.
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Destination Folder preview, Reject SD/CF card upon import, are two of the capabilities that were removed that really need to be put back in. I am not a fan of the new import UI but this can be removed in Preferences>General, but I really miss being able to see where my photos are going.
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I was so excited to hear about a new Lightroom release! I thought maybe the 4x slower import/convert/build-preview times would be improved. Or overall performance rendering! No, instead the import dialog has been updated to obfuscate or remove any control I might have had over my workflow.

My workflow relies on several presets that move images from different shoot categories onto different drives on my computer or network storage. The presets rename the files and go to specific folder structures, but a small amount of manual work is needed per-import (shoot name, folder name). Without a clear filename preview and destination-tree, I can't easily verify that my preset will be going where I need it to be.

Plus most of what everyone else here has already said.

How about instead of removing features, we finally are given the option to do a custom naming convention on the folders like we do on the filenames?
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PLEASE, please review these changes. I see a lot of people, like myself who regularly use move, file name preview, destination visualization, etc.

I use LR to organize my photos....move is essential for that, otherwise (very simply), I won't be able to find anything without constantly resynching my filing system...
As others have mentioned...
I want to see where things are going to make sure I haven't made a mistake, which now I can't FIX because there is no MOVE.

Please rethink this!
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I can understand Adobe wanting to simplify the UI for newbies. However, why eliminate important features supportive to the workflow of so many professionals and advanced users!? These important options could be initially hidden or first activated in Preferences. There are so many ways of solving the 'simplicity' problem without forcing advanced users to deal with a new, dumbed down version of the import window! Please Adobe (!), give us back all the features we have happily used and needed!
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I want all the old import dialog features available, I use them all at some point in time. Adobe is on the wrong track trying to dumb down and pretty up their software. If Adobe thinks there is a need for Lightroom Elements or LIghtroom LIte, create a separate product or make a new OPTIONAL interface. Don't take away features to achieve this goal
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What they did does not satisfy neither professional, neither newbie.
Great software is great when newbie understand it and professional do not miss control.

I am affraid they "must" make some progress periadically, regardless. They do not dig into mud and fix basic (performance) problems which are there all the way from version 1.
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Seriously.. The redesigned import is awful. Adobe broke the old adage "if it aint broke, don't fix it." I won't go into specifics because they are all thoroughly documented in this thread. Suffice it to say that I was happy with the old import and was able to get my work done just fine. This new interface has hindered my workflow and caused problems. Please bring the old interface and functionality back.