Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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Now, on to some examples.

What's Missing:

-Option to Move files on import - use quite regularly, particularly if I'm importing only certain sessions from a multi-session shoot. In such circumstances, I configure different image sub-folders on the CF card in-camera for each session during the shoot.

-Destination folder preview - always used. Given that my workflow places significant emphasis on where images are physically stored after import, I really need to know exactly where they are being imported to: I use a single catalog, with local SSD, Local HDD and archival NAS (raid 6), with images moving diversely through these storage media. Long storey short, I need to know where my RAW (cr2) files are. Additional backup considerations apply - See Note 1 Below.

-Ability to fully review Images for Import - Loss of zoom function removes the ability to realistically review images for critical sharpness etc at import. Now I have to Import all, render previews, review, remove and waste CPU time as well as my time.

-Auto un-mount / ejection of media cards - Seriously - your new target audience cant navigate a few simple options in a UI??? What makes you think they can manage to safely remove a USB drive / media card from the host PC / Mac... operating system??? - "Can't you just pull it out???? Corrupt data/card's here we come, courtesy of adobes improved import process.

-Ability to import duplicates
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What's Wrong:

-Well, everything!

-Do not want phone inspired landing screen for import that scans my whole PC for potential import sources. My workflow dictates where my image will be: (CF Card / Working Local Storage / NAS)

-UI is totally inconsistent with the rest of Lightroom

-Lacks many essential features (lost)

-Images for import are greyed out, and have large tick-mark icon in centre, while unselected (will not import) images are highlighted and un-obscured...... SO how am I supposed to review import candidates during my workflow, when the image is greyed out, and has a huge tick in its centre?

-If your new user base can't handle simple file imports into a powerful image database / DAM / Editor, how are they going to grasp continence's in the Develop Module: Crop, White Balance, Exposure, White Point, Black Point, Highlight / Shadow Recover, Saturation, Vibrancy, Hue/Saturation/Luminescence, Split Toning, Noise Reduction & Sharpening, Lens/Camera calibrations and corrections, Colour Space etc... Shall we just dump those down too? There must be a button we can create that will lock everyone in to a single workflow and creative philosophy that will result in millions of images of identical phone / Instagram inspired mediocrity.

----By-The-Way---- I took a lovely picture of my mediocre lunch today, applied an epic filter and posted to Facebook / Intagram for all my friends to see..... you may note a slightly facetious tone in my voice..........
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"-UI is totally inconsistent with the rest of Lightroom "

Wait a bit ... it will all look like this if this new update is any indication of the future.
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I truly hope not, but have a terrible feeling you may be right. Please Adobe, don't give Develop the same treatment for you new target market sector customers. You, as the developer, with support of the wider professional / enthusiast community have developed Lightroom to such a point that it is the industry standard for a huge proportion of working photographers, studios and enthusiasts. If market forces are driving you towards a more causal / amateur market sector, develop a product that fits THEIR needs. Lightroom CC 2015.1 / 6.1 is powerful, simple and streamlined, while allowing multiple workflow senarious.
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Goof luck with that ... it seems Adobe has chosen the philosophy to require EVERYONE to use training wheels because the newbies are having trouble balancing their bicycles.

I hope I am wrong ... but if this latest update is any indication ... followed by Mangalick's attempt to put everything in 'context' ... I'm not hopeful that anyone who makes such decisions at Adobe really cares what we think.

After decades of using their software .... suddenly mere mortals, like myself, don't have a clue as to what I want in my software solutions.
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Kind of lost the will to go on....

There's enough covered here already, and if Adobe don't want t listen, then realistically, my Lightroom/Photoshop CC subscription will be ending come renewal time.

Note 1: - BACKUP CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEW USERS
As a side note, lack of import destination folder preview also present huge implications for new users in terms of how such NEW and INEXPERIENCED users will handle their backups...... Since Lightoroom only backs up the Lightroom Catalog database on exit (if set in preferences), how confused are new users going to be when they think Lr has been backing up their RAW images (or more likely terrible iphone jpgs they are converting to grainy monotone or other doggy filter effects) when in reality Lr has only backed up the catalog database? Given that the new import workflow gives even less indication as to final (raw / source) image location within the users given storage environment, how are they supposed to configure their backup routines. - Lightroom continually wants to backup to "Pictures" within the windows user account space..... I run on a PC with:

SSD1: - OS
SSD2: - Lightroom Catolog & Preview cache
SSD3: - Camera raw / Photoshop cache / scratch and other temp dirs
Local HDD: - Current Working Raw Files
NAS (Raid 6): Archival network storage with redundant
NAS (Raid 6): Backup of above NAS

Now tell me the new simplified Import experience knows where to store my RAW images.... in C:\Users\James\Pictures ???? I THINK NOT
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This thread was originally supposed to be just about the lost features, but has gone a little further afield of that now. I wanted to address the deficiencies in the new Import UI separately, and I posted this to the Lightroom blog earlier today and it has been "awaiting moderation" for over 4 hours, probably because that blog has been overwhelmed with negative comments and seems to be functionally frozen (read: offline). I'd probably take a sick day, too, if I were Sharad Mangalick.

Besides the lost features (which is never a good idea) the UI is severely flawed. I'll pick up the limboed post here:

"I wrote extensively on the family blog about my dissatisfaction with the new Import loss of functionality. In that piece, I wrote specifically how the loss of features had me pushing back my chair in frustration. But even if you brought back all the functionality you stripped out, the interface would still blow. Sometimes, I have images on my card that need to get directed to different folders; I use folders to session my work. So I might have to run import a couple of times on the same card, because rather than Adobe figuring out ways that I could stack import targets in a single operation, they were too busy reducing the Import experience for the selfie crowd.

So, before, when I would go back to Import to bring in another session from the card, my previous import would be greyed out because it was duplicated (if I had the “don’t import dupes” check box selected). With the new UI, there’s no way to know which files were previously imported UNLESS I CHECK THEM ALL or mouse over the image. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. I want to uncheck everything, and all the potential candidates dim and the dupes dim more. Then, as I check them, the thumbnails brighten. With the new version, when I select them, the check mark covers the image and the image dims. I want the selects to be bold and bright, and the non-selects to be dim. The new version is exactly the opposite and it’s profoundly stupid. It seems to assume that users are going to ingest everything.

So, let’s jot it up: severe loss of functionality and a confusing, reversed UI for seasoned users. And you say returning to the former version “is not an option.” I am very sorry to hear that. I thought that maybe LR would avoid the rot that has set in at Adobe. I guess I was wrong."

As a sidenote: Returning to the former version is actually an option. I rolled back to 6.1.1 by just restoring from Time Machine and letting Time Machine overwrite the 6.2 install. Worked a treat and took about 2 minutes and even recognized all the imports I had made with 6.2 (which admittedly were few).
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Reading Sharad's condescending blog post made me just about throw up in my mouth.
I guess the message to software companies is shove your app in front of neophytes and whatever they don't get, start hacking away.
If they want to please Suzy Selfie and Johnny Pointandshoot, they should release LR-Elements and leave LR alone.
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My thought's exactly... Lightroom is a powerful tool both in terms of it's excellent RAW processing / image editing capabilities, but also in terms of a workflow and complete image asset management solution.

"Suzy Selfie" and "Johnny Pointandshoot" do not need, or care about workflow or asset management, once they have their image (with shiny instagram filters applied) posted on social media, all is forgotten. Who cares about the original files, the keyword and metadata tagging, the library / retrieval / archival storage aspects, let alone backup. Maybe Adobe should dumb down lightroom to a the following buttons:

1) Open Image
2) Apply "Filter"
3) Post to: Facebook, Flickr, Instagram, etc etc etc.

Once "Suzy Selfie" has her image on socail media, it's in "The Cloud", got to be backed up right??... "Johnny Pointandshoot" will be able to view, retrieve, make further edits to and enjoy the image forever right????

There is a reason why I have invested over £16K in camera gear, lumber around the countryside with crippling amounts of gear strapped to my back, pay for capable/advanced software and spend a lot of effort ensuring I know exact where every image I have ever shot is located, it's subject matter, and that it is future proofed. Suddenly, I feel like adobe's solutions may not be representative of my goals, or deserving of my hard earned cash.

Perhaps I should trade it all in for a camera-phone and and simple one-finger-swipe app.

On the subject of poor UI not listening to your customers / user base and how adobe should take note: Flickr - I was once a very active and paid member of the flickr community, sadly, following several ill considered, audience grabbing moves by Yahoo, I no longer have much to do with there offering. I would hate the same to come-to-pass for Lightroom.
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Suzy Selfie and Johnny Pointandshoot. :D Love it!
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Why should I pay for a crippled piece of software?
I paid good money to upgrade to LR6 (permanent licence) and today I am landed with something barely usable. What was the reason behind this upgrade; just make sure that the people making selfies and shooting their dogs and kids could put all that on facebook and so on without any effort.
Please revert to something that we "people ho care about their photos and work" can use today as we could yesterday.
If you have customers for something easy to use, just develop a Lightroom Elements and let it be known
I vote for reverting to 6.1.1
And please do not treat Permanent Licence customers as you have been doing lately, it is mean and certainely not constructive; in other words you are lucky that migration to another software is to complicated, but if you keep on tha attitude, that may happen and sooner that you think!
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I whole heartedly agree, I have absolutely nothing against casual / smart phone photographers. I have seen many creative images and wonderful compositions and fleeting moments captured on smartphones.

But that does not mean that one piece of software is capable of serving both markets. Advance users want extensive control both of the creative, editing and management process. Meanwhile, casual users want instant gratification by the quickest possible means. The two are standpoints are juxtaposed, if Adobe truly want to make headway in the consumer / novice market, all credit to them, they have profit margins and long terms goals to look after. At the same time, so do all the professionals that DEPEND on their software.

Perhaps, after Lightroom, they may wish to tackle Photoshop? If people are too stupid or unwilling to learn the basic organisational workflows and folder structures, let's see how they deal with relatively simple concepts in Photoshop like Layer's, Layer Mask's, Blending Modes, Luminosity Mask's, Channels, Levels, Curves etc

I'm sure we can distil Photoshop's plethora of tools, snap-in's, palettes etc to something a little more manageable for the uninitiated.
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just upgraded to 2015.2 because i hoped the terrible bug described HERE was fixed.

The bug prevents LR to detect external changes to the original file in the develop module. You have to restart LR to update the preview after every external change...

But it's still NOT fixed (waiting since june now).

Instead i've lost like 80% of the import features!

Well played Adobe! Well played! Go on! Surprise me with the next update!
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This is exactly what I'm angry about this greedy corporation which acts like we are cattle, only good for their income and we will bear anything they throw at us: They never fix a thing, since anyone is with Adobe software long enought will know most of issues are already from version one. What they do is mess with user interfaces, and take away features we need/want, so they can repack them back in future "versions" where we must accept new crap along with them and they can say they listened us. There is little of improvement in Lightroom from version one, regarding performance. Only computers are faster today. Actually latest versions would not even ignite on PC's from version one era.

But until we give them billions of dollars per year regardless, we are cattle...
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Adobe, what are you doing???

This latest update is useless, limited and drastically effects my work flow

Every new improvement or feature, I have to disable

Use Graphics Processor = Off
Face Detection = Paused
Show Add Photos Screen = Unticked

It would be so much better to concentrate, on making the key parts faster and smoother

i.e. import, export, Library module and develop module

Please stop

I will not be subscribing to CC until there are real improvements in Lightroom
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AWFUL UPDATE - BRING BACK THE OLD IMPORT DIALOG BOX - OR GIVE ME THE OPTION TO TURN IT ON.
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Can we get the possibility to downgrade to 6.1 ?? Unless your take in count users commentaries and modify what was a wrong choice in 6.2
Thanks
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I used Time Machine to turn back on my Mac.
I never thought TM was a so great feature :D
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Please Give us back the old import dialog box. I regress with 6,2... Unbelievable ???
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This new import thing is a disaster, but even more than that, the fact this it could have been created is a telling sign on how bad the PM are. This spirit is just destroying a good tool. Bring back the old one, or put the YES I'M STUPID mode by default if you want, but t least make it removable for the advanced user.
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I have been using Lightroom since LR1 and I am very fond of it. However I am very disappointed with the new Import Menu. I don't understand why Adobe changed it, while I considered the old one being very logical, rich and efficient. There are a lot of other priorities for improving Lightroom than to change what worked well. As the great Duke Ellington used to say : "When it ain't broke, don't fix it....".

I understand that Adobe decided to change the Import menu because many casual users are meeting problems with the Import function. I am rather familiar with such users, as I trained many photographers to use Lightroom, about half of them being beginners in using digital image processing software (but not beginners as photographer). I confirm that these beginners are often meeting very serious difficulties with the Import function. However I strongly believe that Adobe is making a huge mistake if they think that a simple makeover of the import menu will solve the problem.

What is difficult and very awkward for this kind of users is not the user interface of the import menu, but the idea of importation itself. For them "importing pictures" means just copying the pictures from the memory card to the disc drive. And they don't understand why the pictures are not immediately visible in Lightroom as soon as they are on the disc drive. What is difficult for them is the principle of a catalog. I spent hours trying to explain to them, with metaphors, with diagrams, etc; but I had to admit that Lightroom is not as simple for everybody that I thought and that the catalog is an abstraction which is insuperable for some users.

Even when I thought I had succeeded in explaining them how it works, they came to me a few days after saying 'Hi, I did exactly as you explained, however Lightroom has lost my photos again". Because they did not feel confortable with the catalog of Lightroom, as soon as they had imported their pictures into LR they jumped onto the file explorer or the finder to manipulate (or to tinker ?) their photos outside Lightroom. Or they export pictures after development and import them again, because they have been taught for years that they must save a copy of the picture after having worked on it. Very soon their catalog is a real mess.

This proves a serious misunderstanding of Lightroom principles ? I do agree; but people are like that. Some of them were beginners with LR but were rather skilled users of Photoshop. That seemed very strange to me, because I always considered LR much simpler than PS. But I was wrong : for many people PS is just a toolbox, and they learn to use only a very limited number of these tools; but PS is fully compatible with file explorer or finder; thus it does not change their habits. On the opposite to be able to use LR you have to understand what is a workflow, a catalog, the need of importation, non-destructive editing, etc. I feel all these concepts nice and smart; they feel them strange and awkward.

I noticed that these users had no (or less) problem with Picasa, although Picasa uses a catalog as well. But in Picasa the catalog is almost invisble as it is automatically updated as soon as pictures are loaded on the drive. For these users the dream would be the Lighroom Development module (of course with camera raw) plugged on Picasa. Now, would Adobe be wise to develop such a monster ? I am not sure. However what I am sure is that trying to satisfay two very different market targets with a same software (professionnal and experts photographers on one side and casual photographers on the other side) could lead Adobe to unsatisfy both of them.

A solution could be perhaps to implement 2 levels of use in Lightroom (as it exists in PSE or Premiere Element) :
- an expert level with the previous Import menu which was very satisfactory
- a beginner (or assisted) level in which importation is 100% automatic, with no options. No menu is needed in this case.
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The only thing Adobe will listen to is money.
Therefore, besides me how many people have cancelled their Lr CC subscription?
I am now looking actively for a replacement.
Any suggestions?

Tim
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"The only thing Adobe will listen to is money. "

Sadly you're right. And they have us over a barrel!
They want money form a bunch of people who never touched the product and don't want to take the two minutes it takes to figure out UI. So they kick their loyal customers to the curb and spit in their face.

If there was an alternative I would cancel.
Affinity is doing great things with their software. Believe me, when they mature a bit more Photoshop may go away.
If they do something similar to Lightroom, DEFINITELY dropping Adobe completely!
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I have started to look at Capture One Pro, ACDSee (with LightRoom import), and Zoner Photography Suite.

Tim
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This is a monumental disaster for Lightroom users. I suspect Adobe will throw a tiny bone to those displeased with the Import module changes.

I will dump Lightroom at the first opportunity.

vince
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Hey Adobe !

What's the problem with you ??!! Give me back the Lightroom I used to use for years now ! I mean an always improving piece of software, listening to its customers expectations, providing more and more useful features.

Instead, look at what you're doing ! Are you aware about the growing dissatisfaction !? You're irritating a whole set of pro / skilled / very demanding photographers (who are used to use Lr on daily basis for their business) just because you are just listening to marketing's sirens ? Ok, you want more and more revenues, this is your reason to be as for all editors, but you do it the wrong way !

This can't be serious ! You gonna shout yourself in the foot if you continue this way.
For instance, why changing the import menu this way ? Why not having just a simple import menu with the possibility to expand to an advanced one (the previous one in Lr 6.1 indeed) ? Why almost forcing your costumers to move to CC licence if they don't want to ?

Why do I think I gonna move to Capture One for instance if you persist in doing this way ? Aren't you respecting your existing and faithful customers ? Why not just releasing an "Lr Element" version just for people who just want to do it "quick and dirty" if you think this is where your next market is ... instead of abandoning your pro photographers just because they are less numerous, so less profitable ?

So please ... listen to us ! We're not against change ... We just don't want stupid and useless evolutions. Period !

ps: forgive me for my "french" english writing ;)
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Paying 60 EUR/month/person is not profitable enought for them??

While consumer market is free stuff market. Why bother with Lr on mobile phone if 100's of free stuff is out there.
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I'm deeply insulted with this Adobe attitude to customers. I feel like a cattle which are breed only for food and impeled to any direction

cowboy wants, regardless of my feel, need, wish. I see that my work, my customers and my worries how I will earn for my Adobe CC

subscription fee, is Adobe's least care. They are taking my money and yell that giving me what I payed for "is not an option", at the same time.
I come from ex communist country and this is exact way how totalitarian regime treated it's taxpayers. Taking their freedom and smirking

them into their faces at the same time: "What you'll do you poor citizen? Escape? LOL".

Adobe's attitude is equally impudent as of those eastern block countries in 80's, based on knowledge that we struggled a decate to understand and adopt to Adobes impossible workflow and lack of features (remember Premiere 6.5, Encore, etc), and now we are so into this ecosystem, we can't or have no will to escape. New features and improvements were dosaged so steadily slow that users were yearn for them and when arrived, noone asked twice how much they charge for upgrade. But thoose improvements reminds me on Communist cars: Yugo, Moskvich, Lada, Wartburg, Skoda... New model ment rear window heater, or even only new carpet color. And many thoose features were step backward - new stylish window handle in Yugo were brittle like ice, so anyone had old "ugly" Zastava-101 handles installed which were metal casted. So does this Adobe updates feels. Nothing solved regarding issues (milage, engine performance, safety), but just new gross plastick front mask changed to worse (because original product was designed by professional, new one is done at coffe table).

I'm insulted because after spending 13 years with Adobe (Premiere, Encore) and 8 years with Lightroom, I feel dragged thirsty over the river.

Many times I was mocked by friends why I use this resource gobbling piece of junk, while they stayed at other solution. But I replyed:

Premiere is only who handle large picture at native resolution (4000x4000 at the time) and I can zoom it, while others (Avid, Liquid) were

truncating it to timeline resolution and then blowing up that. I came from AVID media composer too in 2003, because Premiere PRO was

decent and cheap (750 EUR at the time). Until today it is the most stable version. I worked on FCP, Premiere/Pro, Avid MC/NC, Liquid, Incite. I was instructor too. I am used to adapt on new workflow if it is well thought.

I'm sick of buying new ram, new processor new SSD's every 6 months to make Adobes software work. I'm sick of having CTRL+S, all worn out, because crashing is so common with Adobe software as was communist cars refusal to start cold (or worm, or in between). I have most

expensive hardware, but Lighroom still stalks and halts and is buggy. This is insult for our money payed. I thrown some 20.000 EUR into

Adobe's account during all years, and multiply this with licences sold! And what we get for that in return? "No option" if we ask to get back only what we already had. Like in communist time: No option, no way, ... We are disgusting over the North Korean regime which gives people an option of only 12 different haircuts to choose from? What is Adobe then, which gives us ONLY ONE OPTION they choose?

I'm angry to any developer that ever sold their software to Adobe. Syntrilium Cool Edit Pro was one of the first they ruin (Sorry Adobe! For some new Izotope filters included, a lot was lost, and we had to wait several Suite-numbers that we get needed features back, including the era of fleeced version called Soundbooth). Any Adobe implementation of any software was only GUI crippling down, flatting the look down, making it dark and with ridiculous highlight colors (Blue on dark grey) and taking features out (because they do not know how they work and how to adapt them). They eventually buy third party stuff and stuff them in (Izotope filters, Lumetri). Every version opens harder, slower, new welcome screens are handbrake... IT IS ENOUGH! Give us good tools which are well thought and we will pay for them endlessly. Stop your tyranny with constatn changes where "you know best what is good for us" as it reminds me too great on totalitarian regimes.

And GUI design: Not exclusive to Adobe, though. Who thing that flat look is better and more intuitive. Before Premiere CC had buttons where icons had square shade if engaged. Now they are only in different color. Confusing. And WHAT helps me that shade is engaged when I hower the icon? They obviously need to produce some changes every so often, but they are clueless what to do? Are Adobe in dead end as Microsoft Widnows is?

I'm pissed off on mysself letting more than a decade of my life adopting to Adobe's less and less intuitive software. I could learn any other tool in this era. Despite I have CC subscription I still use Corel suite, and as it seems I will start Capture One too. It is only 12 EUR per month and I just love the interface. Yes learning curve will be sttep; but LYNDA here I am.

I am paying to be disregarded at Adobe.
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Somehow I can't edit this comment (all other I can), so I opologize for split lines and errors.
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I can hardly believe how bad the new import is. What in the world was Adobe thinking??? It was GREAT before. Now you can't move stuff where you want, lots of features I used are no longer there. I can't even eject the card after import. Or at least I can't find the button to enable this....

Oh please, please, just revert back to how it was. I love that all the import controls were on the bottom. It makes much more sense.
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What a frustrating change to the import experience. Lightroom is a powerful, professional tool. I'm all for streamlining design, but removing *very* useful features is baffling. Please restore the deleted functionality. If you need to add a button to the import dialogue that switches it from beginner to advanced, go ahead, but please give us back our tools.
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I hate to add to this long list of frustrations, which I share, The "F" full screen problem that was resolved sometime ago is BACK!! if you are using the Spot Removal and press F to go to a full screen mode, well you will be unable to get out of it and you will have to terminate Lightroom and start again. I am reverting to 6.1.
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Please restore the Import functionality removed - they are all key features for my workflow - since the first release of LR.

If you need a warm fuzzy import feature, allow the user to toggle it on/off.

I purchased LR CC.
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Adobe you've got to be kidding. Having totally embraced Lr since beta & V1 and rolled through the progressive updates with mostly enthusiasm and occasional irritation, V6.2 marks a historic low-point. As a PC user I'm not exposed to the grief experience by OSX El Kapitan users, but the total mis-fire on the removal of key features in the Import dialog is unforgivable. The old Import UI was never going to win design awards but it wasn't exactly rocket science to figure out. And it worked. As a very busy professional, the ill-conceived V6.2 Import fiasco will do nothing but add time, extra steps and creativity sucking irritation. Please restore the lost features immediately.
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You can also leave a comment on this Adobe page (Sharad Mangalick's blog post):

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
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Heh. I did, some 6 hours ago but it's still awaiting moderation - despite the appearance of posts made later than mine.
Maybe I touched a nerve?
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Suddenly all posts are visible there. Maybe it got unmanagable to moderate all the posts.
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I'm deeply insulted with this Adobe attitude to customers. I feel like a cattle which are breed only for food and impeled to any direction cowboy wants, regardless of my feel, need, wish... I see my work, my customers and my worries how I will earn for my Adobe CC subscription fee, is Adobe's least care. They are taking my money and yell at me that giving me what I payed for "is not an option", at the same time.

I come from ex communist country and this is exact way how totalitarian regime treated it's taxpayers. Taking their freedom and smirk into their faces at the same time: "What you'll do you poor citizen? Escape? LOL".

Adobe's attitude is equally impudent as it was in eastern block countries in 80's, based on knowledge that we struggled a decate to understand and adopt to Adobes impossible workflow and lack of features (remember Premiere 6.5, Encore, etc), and now we are so into this ecosystem, we can't or have no will to escape, anymoore.

Dosage of new features and improvements were always so miserly small (dehaze local brush) that users were yearn for them and when finally arrived, noone asked twice how much they charge for upgrade. And based on that Adobe think they can get away with revamping whatever they will.

This kind of "improvements" in Adobe Software reminds me on Communist cars: Yugo, Moskvich, Lada, Wartburg, Skoda... New model ment rear window heater, fog light knob preinstalled, or even only new carpet color. And many thoose features were step backward as with Adobe - new stylish window handle in Yugo were brittle like ice, so anyone had old "ugly" Zastava-101 handles installed which were metal casted. So does this 2015.2 Adobe Lr "update" feels as latest Yugo car: Nothing solved regarding issues (milage, engine performance, safety), but just new gross plastick front mask changed to worse (because original product was designed by professional, new one was done while drinking morning coffe). Same with "revamped" Lr GUI.

I'm insulted because after spending 13 years with Adobe (Premiere, Encore) and 8 years with Lightroom, I feel dragged thirsty over the river. Many times I was mocked by friends why I use this resource gobbling piece of junk, while they stayed at other solution. But I replyed: Premiere is only who handle large picture at native resolution (4000x4000 at the time) and I can zoom it, while others (Avid, Liquid) were truncating it to timeline resolution and then blowing up that. I came from AVID media composer in 2003, because Premiere 7 (e.k.a. PRO) was decent and cheap (750 EUR at the time). Until today version 1.5 is the most stable version (than 2.0). I worked on FCP, Premiere/Pro, Avid MC/NC, Liquid, Incite. I was instructor too. I am used to adapt on new workflow if it is well thought. I'm reluctant to changes which are made just for the sake if them.

I'm sick of buying new ram, new processor, new SSD's, new GPU every 6 months to make Adobes software work. I'm sick of having CTRL+S, all worn out on any keyboard, because crashing is so common with Adobe software as it was communist cars refusal to start cold (or worm, or in between). I have most expensive hardware existing, but Lighroom still stalks and halts and is buggy like version 1, which worked on old Core-2-Duo laptop.

This is insult on our money payed. I threwn some 20.000 EUR into Adobe's account during all theese years, and multiply this with licences sold worldwide! And what we get for that in return? We get "No option" if we ask to get back only what we already had. Like in communist time: No option, no way, only our way! We are disgusting over the North Korean regime which gives people an option of only 12 different haircuts to choose from? What is Adobe then, which gives us ONLY ONE OPTION they choose?

I'm angry to any developer that ever sold their software to Adobe. Syntrilium Cool Edit Pro was one of the first they ruin (Sorry Adobe! For some new Izotope filters included, a lot was lost, and we had to wait several "Suite-numbers" that we got needed features back, including the era of fleeced version called Soundbooth).

Any Adobe implementation of any software was only GUI crippling down, flatting the look down, making it dark and with ridiculous highlight colors (Blue on dark grey) and taking features out (because they do not know how they work and how to adapt them). They eventually buy third party stuff and stuff them in (Izotope filters, Lumetri).

Every version opens harder, slower, new welcome screens are real handbrake... IT IS ENOUGH! Give us good tools which are well thought and we will pay for them endlessly. Stop your tyranny with constant changes where "you know best what is good for us" as it reminds me too great on totalitarian regimes.

And GUI design trend - not exclusive to Adobe, though: Who think that flat look is better and more intuitive. Before Premiere CC had buttons where icons had square shade if engaged. Now they are only in different color. Confusing. And WHAT helps me that shade is engaged when I hower the icon? They obviously need to produce some changes every so often, but they are clueless what to do? Are Adobe in dead end as Microsoft Widnows is?

I'm pissed off on mysself letting more than a decade of my life adopting to Adobe's less and less intuitive software. I could already learn any other tool during this time. Despite I have CC subscription I still use Corel suite, and as it seems I will start Capture One too. It is only 12 EUR per month and I just love the interface. Yes learning curve will be sttep; but LYNDA here I am.

I am paying to be disregarded at Adobe. sttep; but LYNDA here I am.

I am paying to be disregarded at Adobe.