Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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Auto-eject has never worked fully properly for me. It's a Mac issue, not a LR issue. The card ejects when the download completes. However, if I do not remove the card within a minute or two, the card is re-mounted. This has happened across multiple versions of OSX and LR.

So, for me at least, this isn't much of a problem.
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In all the years that the feature has been available ... I have never had an issue on Mac OS X (any version) with the auto-eject.
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Son Nguyen

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Seriously Adobe! Worst idea in Adobe history.
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The new import screen, if you must use it for newbies, (although I'd prefer it gone for good) should be an Opt IN preference, not an opt out. If this preference is unticked (default), it should use the 6.1 standard import screen, as it has always been.
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two distinct problems:

1 The product management decision to do this version of Import. Inexcusable! If you don't want us as customer have the guts to step up and tells us.

2. Where is the quality in the design and test of the what was released? Who signed off and said this was ready? They should be terminated. There is no way in hades this much falls through the cracks....especially on the Mac side if there was any serious testing. Even I have had beta El Capitan for months to play with.

Bottom line....no excuses for this cluster!!!!!
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The timing would be tied to the Adobe MAX conference that started this week rather than "when it's ready" as should have happened.
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Thank god I haven't updated, I have looked at other screenshots and comments. Why do others always think they know a better way and why would this be released without the ability to revert to the previous import tool. To me this is a failure by Adobe to consider its customer base.
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Those big check marks on import are ridiculous. The default import dialog is also ridiculous.

Perhaps Adobe is trying to imitate with LR what Apple did with Aperture? I sure hope not.
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Ditto
Can't believe you thought this was a helpful upgrade
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Piling on here. I have worked in the software industry for over 20 years, so I know how much it sucks to release a new version and have a response as violent as this one.

However. Man, this sucks. As an example: I use the directory preview every. single. time. I import, to confirm my photos are going in the right place.

If you feel like there's enough demand to need a simpler import interface, that's your business. Have two versions of the import UI if you feel there's a need. But making the experience worse for the existing user base is a bad choice. This isn't Lightroom Elements.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom cc 2015.2 has removed import features that I used! How do I get them b....

The new Import interface has "Dumbed down" the features too much. I use the features removed! Give me a way to bypass the new interface and return to the prior one!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC - How to import images from multiple cards? (I could do this before ....

Before the latest Lightroom CC 2015 update yesterday, I could import photos from multiple cards at the same time. Seems this feature has been removed? Any way to import images from multiple cards at the same time?

Removing this feature seems to me to be a big step backward. If this is a permanent change to the system, this is going to add many hours of time to my work flow process. Instead of being able to import from 4 cards at the same time, now I have to wait and do it one at a time. Not so great when you have a bunch of 64 GB cards.

It seems that in the desire to simply the import, you've removed a really key and critical feature. If I wanted simple, I wouldn't be hauling around full-frame digital cameras and professional lenses.

This makes me feel like in a desire to capture novice photographers, you're losing the professionals.
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wait is it true that when you uncheck a photo in the import dialogue the unchecked photo thumbnail is clearly visible, whilst the ones you do want to import are greyed out with a big tick in front of them?

This is not going to help newcomers at all, it will confuse them more than help! And the most important info - where they are going - is not at all visible and even the way to choose is is a text link. If you want to make it freindly display that info at the top of the import dialogue at the same size as the source!! Come on! This interface has been designed by programmer! (No offence to the developers, but how much time has gone into usability testing this?)
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So very sorry I signed up for the Creative Cloud version instead of just purchasing the software. Wrongly thought the updates would be worth it. The 2015.2 import functionality in Lightroom is abysmal. Even though you can revert to a prior version via CC, I don't trust Adobe to keep that feature. Never again for CC!!!
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Just found out from Adobe support that I can no longer purchase the stand-alone 2015.1 version, only the latest. Really, really, regretting going the CC route. Not only is it more expensive but it locks you in without options.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Let us select the old Import process in the preference menu, Please..

Feedback on the new redesign of the import process in LR CC 2015.2. It would be great to have the option of having the old import process as an option under the preferences, for people that have been using this workflow since LR 1, the new redesign is to drastic and feel a lot more amateurish. PLEASE consider giving the old timers the ability to keep using the well know Import process as before. Thanks.
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« Dear Adobe : we want the classic « LR Import Dialog » back ! Please give us the Choice : in the Preference Panel »
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Updated too without knowing this, utter stupidity this. There's no other word. Instead of adding features like sorting by file type, they just make it a 'apple photo' consumer ui? Come on guys, this is NOT what I'm paying for.
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@Adobe
@Chris Cox

This is the most important problem reported ever. If you see the number of people that are having problems with this just after a few days (271).

Don ́t you think it ́s time for an official statement on this?

It ́s very simple. You could either say:

A) Yes we understood and plan to do something in the next release.

or you say:

B) You are all stupid to not see the advantage of the new import GUI.

For me it is very important to get an answer soon, as I want to quit my subscription if the answer is B).

So please stop the silence here.
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I'm not on the Lightroom team, so I can't say much about it.
I'll let the obvious hyperbole slide this time....
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Rene Zuch

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Maybe you know somebody at Adobe that might know somebody from the Lightroom team?
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Rene Zuch

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So you don ́t know anybody from the Lightroom team? Why are you here responsable for this thread?

And by the way your comment with "hyperbole" won ́t make the people reporting their serious problems with the import very happy and shows the ignorance of Adobe towards it ́s paying customers.
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I do know the Lightroom team, but am not part of that team and cannot speak for them.

I am not responsible for this topic in any way. I have responded when called out by name.
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Shame on you !!
I need to work with Lightroom as a professional photographer.
So be professional as an editor and check your update before publish it.
I want to thank Time Machine for let me restaure the ancient version of Lightroom.
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http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjourn...
Here is an 'official' comment from Adobe on their blog where they admit they only cared about the needs of new customers and that;
"Keeping the existing Import experience isn’t an option, and we needed to evolve the Import experience."

They have declared that their existing customer needs are no longer an option. Customer Loyalty be damned.

The thing I hate the most is that I am going to have to keep using the software, albeit begrudgingly now, because there is nothing else available that can organize so many files with smart collections. I have 10s of thousands of files organized this way. I rely on it. I am going to have to suck up the import crap and the extra workflow headaches in order to keep a handle on all the files I already have organized. I wish I could walk away. No one should have to stay with a one-sided relationship, but it's hard to leave when you stand to lose everything you've worked for over years and years...
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What if in the future they decide that smart collections are not an option because people don't learn to understand their power? and then they just remove them one day without telling us?
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Rene Zuch

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The statement from Adobe is a hit in the face of the people that reported their issues here. I wonder if the post I made there survives moderation.
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so new customers want a great big tick in the middle of their picture to understand it will be imported?
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Biggest disappointment by Adobe ever... Even worse is their ignorance. I paid for a certain product which they now made much worse forcing me to not install any further updates.
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Hi everyone

What is happening at Adobe corp?
One of feature of LR was to check our picture to decide what import or not and where. And now, how to proceed?
Pearhaps, some users want to import all their production. But I think I'm not alone to manage my LR catalog, to select the best picture, to elimimate the one which doens't as I whished (sorry, I'm not perfect ;-)).

So, please
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Dear Sir or Madam from Adobe : I want the classic « LR Import Dialog » back ! At least give the choice in the preference panel. Many thanks
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Interestingly, having reverted to 6.1 from 6.2, I now find the 'eject after import' option has vanished; with no apparent way of getting it back through either the 'old' Import screen, or Lr Preferences. Is there something else lurking in my iMac system, left over from the abortive CC2015 update?
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In lack of an official statement here (HELLO, anybody listening?), I'll have to go with the Adobe blog post, Samantha linked to few posts ago.

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjourn...

„The previous Import experience literally made people push back from their computers in frustration.“

In this case it’s your responsibility to provide better support/education/tutorials for those, who want to actually enter such a a software. It is, however, NOT your responsibility, to break ANY workflows of existing users, especially if they are paying for the product and expect it not to get worse all of a sudden, while they still have to pay the same price.

It is in the nature of DAM software to be complex and you just can’t solve this issue by dumbing such software down, because then you loose functionality that is needed by such software. If users really want to learn such a software, there will neccessarily be a learning curve. So again, it is your responsibility to educate those people that they can master the software eventually.

Following your own logic, you would also need to get rid of DNGs altogether, because that’s “just to complicated for new users”. And I don’t think you would want to do that, OR DO YOU??

Also, why stop here, go on to other software, take away masking from Photoshop, just to complicated for new users. Direct selection tool in Illustrator? Hm, new users don’t understand it right away, get rid of it already. Take away scripting in InDesign, no way new users would know how to use it. Keyframes in After Effects? How are they intuitive? Let’s get rid of them. Dreamweaver? Hm, coding is complicated, should get rid of that software altogether.
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Also, your only concern seems to be to have people not been pushed back from their computers. Your concern SHOULD however be, that people's files are not damaged and that they do not end up in a mess.

If new users knew that you don't care about the well-being and flawless organization of their files, I'm sure they would be way more „pushed back“ from their computers.
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Apart from the loss of functionality I agree with others about usability. l was already struggling to read some of the text in 6.1, it is now worse. Modern hi-res screens mean smaller text, yes you can use text scaling and change the screen dpi setting but each of these brings its own problems. 6.2 made this a whole lot worse.
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very small type really sucks!!!!! I am not 18 any more
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Rene Zuch

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The official statement of Adobe is unbelievable.

„The previous Import experience literally made people push back from their computers in frustration.“

The present import experience makes me want to cancel my subscription.

Now what is worse Adobe?