Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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Tobias Migge

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Removing features is NEVER an option!
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Howard Dickson

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Please Adobe... DON'T dumb down Lightroom. It is unique in its intuitive interface, giving quick access to a workflow with as few, or as many tools and features as you need. To remove this functionality is nothing short of crazy. The new import screen looks like something from a $5 piece of shareware, and different from the rest of the beautifully designed interface.

Please... Get an update out soon to revert back. Some new features are great, such as the De-haze slider in the local tools (can we also have Vibrance there too?)... So stop trying to tweak down features and simplify appearance, and concentrate on improving functionality... PLEASE!?
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Frank Koehntopp

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You have removed a very functional interface and dumbed it down. Very bad move. You also broke work habits for thousands of people.
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Patrice Latrace

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totalement d'accord car la méthode d'import une fois maîtrisée était fiable et efficace
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The funny thing is that the import window looks like a flat-Apple like window. Only that. It's not like you redesigned the whole interface. Only the import window. And it's just ugly, unfunctional and non-intuitive.
Plus a new image as start-up-screen and hey, "we have a new version of Lightroom". I really don't care about the pop-image at the start.
The only thing that matters is functionallity & intuitivity. And you failed big time with this new update, Adobe. Just read all the comments in this topic and maybe you'll see why.

Give us a 6.2.1 update and put back those nice features who made Lightroom a powerful database.
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Andreas Helbig

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The crashing on Macs after the upgrade is one thing, but removing crucial elements from the import dialog is a thing that i don't understand. At least give the user the option to decide if she/he want's to go the "streamlined" way or to do it "oldschool" with all the options we had before.
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Hello
Just did my first import....but after import finish in Library all views show BLACK, see imagine. I have ReSync'd even Exit out then come back and Previews not showing. All other folders are OK, just not the NEW import. Any ideas?
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With Adobe having moved to a subscription model with its Creative Suite, CS6 Production Premium is what I will use for the foreseeable future.

After having tried Lightroom 6.2 (the standalone version), I have quickly reverted back to Lightroom 6.1.1 due to my Mac crashing and the botched import dialogue. It is like a fix for something that was not broken in the first place. It might be my last Lightroom version as well.
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Exactly what I am doing. I just didn't expect to have to drop Lightroom so soon.
I guess, I'll keep it on my system as long as my Mac supports it, but after that I will have to find some alternatives, both for Lightroom and other Adobe software.
Luckily at least in some areas there are some real competitors popping up.
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That's a lot of useful, used and in my view necessary functionality removed!

Move, the italicised folder preview and the eject are the deal breakers for me.
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Why on earth did you change something that was working?
Destination panel folders preview are vital to me.

Please Adobe, this is not what we're expecting from you.
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NOT, a good update. I really need, and use every time, the destination folder tree. For me, this is not a "improved import experience", since it's totally useless now, and I will have to use another program to first import the pictures to my computer, and THEN add them to LR.
And why add a dumbed down import splash screen, that only slows down the import by adding another step?
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The new import is base on customer request. I can't imagine this.
It rather looks like you are distributing a very early beta, just to have some news for Adobe MAX.

No thanks. I am reverting to former version.
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Adobe told us

LR6 won't get new features, only bug fixes.....

One more lie from the company... looking at this crappy import menu !
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lcs

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Unbelievable!!

Just plain unbelievable.
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I need to be able to bring in duplicates regularly for various reasons and this downgrade has left me without this option. Not sure what I am going to be able to do to as a workaround yet I have been a LR user since the first public beta and this is a big step backwards for LR. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old import dialog.

Oh and the removal of "Eject Media" just adds to the frustration. Now I have an extra step outside of LR.

If you are going to make a change like this at least leave all the old options in there as well or put a check-box in the preferences to select "Amateur" or "Power User" mode for the experienced users.

How do I roll back to 6.1? Either that or get a patch out urgently to fix this mess
John
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Thanks
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled duplicate files.

I updated the latest version of Lightroom. In this version has gone the tab "ignore duplicate" when you import pictures.
In my workflow I use that option because I doubled the same photo in different files.
With the new update it can not and is giving me problems in my work.
I would like to return to put that option in the menu of "import files".
Or a solution to my problem.
Thank you for the attention.
A greeting
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Before this release, LR typically remembered the folder I last used, and would create a new dated folder within that folder at the next import. This is what I want 99% of the time. It seems that the default target is going to be the pictures folder regardless, so now I will have to change that by selecting my photo drive, then the year folder, and tell LR to create the target date folder. So the process has gone from simply clicking "Import" to at least three steps, and without the benefit of the directory tree to verify the target. What a great "feature."
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The new Import is a more than one step back – I have absolutely no clue on what your were when this decision has been taken. Please give us back the old one which was about perfect.
Remove the ‘Move’ option if you like as it’s not a suggested best practice anyway – and just give us back all the other options not available anymore – simply put: take the old code and release 6.3 with the import from 6.1!

Before, it was designed for pro's ... all in one place together on one screen - clearly arranged.
I am teaching LR, and you just removed some of the functions everybody loved in the import because they helped them not mess up the import.
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From the very 1st introduction of Lightroom, workflow has been the power of this amazing application for the professional photographer and serious amateur. The workflow is based on modules with the primary ones being the library and develop modules. Most humans read from left to right and the modules are styled this way, the source information being on the left and the adjustments on the right. The import process is the same but is a module within the library module. So if I wish to import images to Lightroom I open the import module select the images from the left panel, check the top centre bar to see if I can copy or add etc. and then look at the right panel to see what information I need to change or add. Then I import, thats it, a simple process. The new updated import interface has created a wall between the left and right and has also left out options for the photographers that have supported this application from the very beginning. What Abobe needs to do is create more online videos to educate those new to Lightroom and other applications they make available to the public. The bottom line is this rendition of Lightroom is alienating those that have supported the application from the beginning and has disrupted the workflow of many serious photographers
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I totally agree. A professional software like a DAM simply needs advanced settings. If Adobe thinks not everybody understands these necessary settings, they should do a better job teaching people how to use them, not take them away altogether.
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I would like to chime in and add another voice calling for a change back to the way it was. Lightroom is a tool for Pros. It doesn't need to be dumbed down and made to look and work like the OSX Photos app with a stunning reduction in functionality.
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If new users are intimidated by the Import dialog ... what sort of calamity does Adobe have in store for the Develop module?

The sad part about this update is that no matter how many users are upset, disappointed and annoyed by this latest offering for Lightroom CC ... under CC, we users are still obligated to reward Adobe monetarily for the effort.

It's an eye opening facet of this new licensing model where the powers that be apply their self-appointed elitist attitude without fear of financial repercussion.

Even though we can roll back or choose not to install the latest version ... we still have to pay for this absurd and thoughtless offering and miss out on new camera support, etc. until they either rectify or rescind this flawed Import dialog.
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Exactly the reason why I'm still with CS6 and non-CC-Lightroom and will have to look for alternatives in the future. I suggest other people do the same.
I mean they actually wasted time and money (the users money!) for this mess instead of investing it in really bringing the software forward.
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Having the destination folder tree is a must as well as the others they removed! Making our lives as professional photographers harder not simpler. What were they thinking? Apparently they weren't.
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I use ALL of the features you have removed. I will not be upgrading.
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Just a reminder, since we're running to multiple pages now....

The more information you can share on WHY you need specific features and how its loss will affect your workflow, the more weight it will add to your request.
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There' are two ways to answer the request for specifics as to why I need features and how the loss affects my workflow.
(1)I use the "move" option to import scattered files and folders into the catalogue whilst tidying my drive in a single step. I use the destination folder display to ensure imported files go where I intend them to. I use the eject after import feature because I do not intend to leave the card in the reader permanently (duh!)...but other have already covered these and the other neutered features better than I can.
(2) Another way of putting it is: I use the import features in the way that Adobe designed them to be used and for which they took my money.
There are two immediate effects on workflow: avoiding the 6.2 upgrade, and playing with Capture One (the editing tools are amazing).
At least with the standalone version I can vote with my wallet if LR 7 looks like LR 6.2. Subscription version customers have essentially been bumjacked.
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With all respect Victoria, I am afraid Paula Buermele is exactly right: Adobe will “ride out” the storm and adopt a “Get Over It” attitude. If that sounds familiar just consider how carefully Adobe listened to comments by users regarding this New and Improved mess we got from Jive.
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> With all respect Victoria, I am afraid Paula Buermele is exactly right: Adobe will “ride out” the storm and adopt a “Get Over It” attitude.

I don't want that to happen any more than you do. We all care about Lightroom being the best it can be, which is why we're all taking the time to discuss this.

I can't make any promises about whether anything will change. All I can do is help to give you guys a voice and guide the conversation in a way that stands the best shot at being heard.
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Thank you, Victoria. A listening ear is one of the positives in this situation.
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Hi Victoria
As regards no option to import duplicates now. Here is just one example of why I need to import duplicate files.

I do a fair bit of Camera club competition and need to store duplicates of the same image in various folders. Adding the same image into different collections is not an option as different Metadata is incorporated in each version of the same file. However LR sees these as duplicates.

If I enter my comps one month and get an "Entry" or "Acceptance" I am still eligible to enter the same image a 2nd time (using the same Title). I store a duplicate of the original file in a directory called "Used Once". Since I use LR to manage my images I also need it to see the contents of this folder. The 2nd time I enter it, another judge may award the image a "Merit" or "Honour" as judging is quite subjective.

Of course a workaround could be to rename the file outside of Lightroom before importing it then rename back to the original name once its back in but here I am having to do work outside of Lightroom which is a backward step. In reality prior to this version I actually I just synchronized the folder concerned but the same duplicates issue still applies in 6.2

Trust that explains just one reason why some users may still need such an option. I am sure there are many other valid reasons
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There's not much more to add to what has been stated already in previous comments - I'd just like to emphasize the nonsense of changing something that was already working, instead of fixing bugs that have been reported since 4 years ago in some cases (keyword list truncated at at certain point, identity plate can't have more than 1 line in Windows, inability to customise keyboard shortcuts results in the impossibility to use some of them in foreign keyboards, under par (slow) performance in all the modules...).

Yes, the LR interface is really outdated... but why revamping it should mean removing the very functions that we use lightroom for, and including a stranger picture as a background in the middle of our workflow? I can work around most of the problems, but I want LR to make my life easier with each version, not harder, please!
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Adding my voice - please provide access to the original import dialog, even if it's just optional. It worked perfectly for my workflow, and I didn't need it changing.