Lightroom: Restore features removed from Import in LR 6.2 / CC 2015.2

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LIGHTROOM...PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE. I use each and every item most every day in my work flow.To be able to see how file name looks before it is brought in to LR. Is very important.As well as To see the destination Folders , how big a file is......Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location.
Eject After Import is gone. You must now remember to eject memory cards using the operating system
Duplicate photos can’t be imported
Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view.
Filename is now hidden under a tooltip.
Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
Thumbnail filtering by Destination folder is gone.
Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. THANKS!!!
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Another gripe is the large checkmark that obscures the photo thumbnails in the import grid along with a dimming of the image so that you really have no idea what the image looks like. Combined with the removal of the zoom function, this makes it quite useless.

I tried to revert back to 6.1.1 last night but it failed. Will try again after restarting computer. Hope it works. This will be the last time I update an Adobe product without checking on the forums for a month to see what downgrades have been introduced. I certainly won't be recommending the product to anyone anymore.
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I will not be "upgrading" to LightroomCC 2015.2.

WHY was the Move option removed from the Import section. I always use a separate application to read images from the card into a fixed location. From there I quickly get rid of the obviously bad images and MOVE them to the desired folder/location.

If, as others have stated, there is another person's image as background that would REALLY annoy me.

Instead of wasting time adding facial recognition how about fixing the GPU code?!?!

Lightroom is slowly being ruined.
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I also reverted to 2015 1.1 release. I have no intention of going back to this current buggy release even if they fix the bugs. I didn't really use it very much because it was very very slow and crashy, in spite of turning off the GPU and unchecking the problematic import panel option (This is on Mac Yosemite). After wasting a lot of time and then reverting, I looked hard at the feature set and the differences. All the new features, except perhaps improvements to the panorama stitching, are of absolutely zero interest to me. And then things that are very important to me, like Move, apparently have been removed. This seems a clear push to favor mobile and cloud based features in favor of professionals using this for high resolution images with custom workflows.

I can see that the cloud and mobile features fit into Adobe's marketing scheme, but out of several photographers I know, none use Lightroom Mobile as it is currently working. I was personally excited about something like Lightroom mobile at some point in the distant past, but I have completely lost interest. I will just use my computer for serious photography. The iPad is good for reading the news and twitter.

Please take care of your core base -- serious photographers who use real cameras and need real computer power, screen real estate, multiple input devices and keyboard shortcuts and external hard drives for storage. I suppose there is money to be made from iphone users and their camera rolls, but really, are you just abandoning photographers?
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I am on windows phone and I have installed Photoshop Express, which is what Lr does: A very good for developing images. But why ruin main Lr, that is beyond my understanding. I hate all software goes toward "touch screen" like WIndows. I'm still on 7, due to same reason: They push something we do not want.
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I have carefully compared the new and old import dialogues (using a 2nd non-yet-updated PC) and some of the removed features in the new dumbed-down interface are of significant value to me:
- The ability to see a sample and confirm file name after renaming (without having to dig into the template editor)
- an indication of total size of import
- The ability to import duplicates, perhaps with a clear warning - not a normal function but occasionally very useful. When you mouse-over an already-imported file it shows a context window with "Import this", but it doesn't appear to do anything.
- no filenames visible except by mousing over a file

From a UI design point of view, the import dialogue is very different from and inconsistent with the general Lightroom UI.

Did you get it done by an intern?
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Destination folder preview removed and immediately I didn't have a double check feature with an import yesterday.
My import preset has a monthly folder data and I had neglected to update that import preset. October images merged into the Sept folder.

Surely there could be choices in that right side data column. Turn on/off destination folder for example.
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I am so glad I read about all the changes and didn't update Lightroom. I am appalled at how poorly thought out this is.

1. "Eject After Import" is removed? This is crazy. It's basic programming and caring about your customer's data to include this. I'm not even sure I remember how to do it otherwise!

2. "move" I don't use this as much as others, but when I do it's very valuable and helps make it easy to make sure everything is in it's proper place.

"- Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the checkmarks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive.
- Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner.
- The filename preview (when renaming) is gone."

I use each of these features regularly, the first and third being the most important.

I agree with the others, if Adobe is targeting new customers they should either do a better job educating the new customers, or make a Lightroom Light for less serious folks. Leave the high end features alone for those who need them!
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First step backwards for Adobe!

Why remove features in the interest of dumbing down a seriously professional software program. I am staying on LR6.1 till this is changed! Which I hope will be quickly and with the next release.

Having just watched the Adobe Max keynote, makes me wonder what else has been released prematurely to meet a conference deadline. Please Adobe don't fall down that hole! Respect your users and supporters. The products are excellent, don't make us all look for alternatives because you want to dumb down the offerings.
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Not being able to view a sample custom name in the Import section is a problem. This will be hit-and-miss when creating a new template.
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Destination folder tree: Why was this removed. It serves as a nice check to make certain the images are going to the correct destination.

If the Adobe Wizards want to simplify things for the new user, then make the dumbed-down interface an option. Don't shackle the rest of us with it.

Simon Garrett said it best(above):

"From a UI design point of view, the import dialogue is very different from and inconsistent with the general Lightroom UI.

Did you get it done by an intern?"

Amen!
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Simon Garrett / Robert Peters:

"From a UI design point of view, the import dialogue is very different from and inconsistent with the general Lightroom UI"

Hopefully, this isn't the first "taste" of an overall UI redesign for Lr. I'd hate to think this is the start of things to come in Lr CC 2015.3 / 6.3.

Overall, Lightroom's UI (recent changes excluded), after using it since around 2009, has a very intuitive UI that instils a logical worklow approach and guides a user through a relatively diverse and complex set of tasks:
-Import,
-Organisation / Cataloguing
-Metadata Tagging
-Development
-Export
-Printing / Publishing.

To dumb down the import process, which is arguably a critical point in any photographer's workflow is plain crazy! Many of the missing features are used at every import.

If Adobe feel the need to redesign the UI to make the software more palatable for mobile device users, please offer a new product, don't ruin what has been many years in the making and a now essential tool in the workflow of many professional / advanced photographers
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I couldn't agree more!
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I too am disappointed with the new import process. I'm a new Lightroom user and the 6.0 release import process was simple and not confusing to use. "If it aint broke don't fix it!) I Hate this new import dialog, especially the BIG check marks over the photos and lack of information on file paths and options.

What's especially frustrating is how the import screen is so DIFFERENT from the rest of the layout of lightroom. It looks like a completely different program then the rest of the standalone version. I'm going back to 6.1.1
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I was shocked this morning, I had customer standing near me with demand for quick job, and I was paralized what was that strange fullscreen-photo "website" looking at me... I was puzzled if maybe a virus hacked my computer, or else. I was really not confident infront of my customers. Adobe stop causing me heart attacks every morning when I open app and not knowing how app will respond.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LR 6.2 loses some features.

Don't move to LR 6.2 without being aware you will lose features.
I found this link useful:
http://laurashoe.com/2015/10/05/adobe...
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To me, the last know good configuration was LR5.
There's a long list of whats wrong with LR and we: (pros with 325,000 DNG files and Video) want a MORE professional app. Its time to split this product off and charge the Pros double the money. I would pay dearly for lots of minutia controls and speed improvements.
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Most of these changes seem unnecessary. While the new import function may look less intimidating to a new user, by removing items like the destination folder Adobe has made it much more likely that new users, and experienced ones as well, will import photos to destinations unknown. Like others, I occasionally experienced Lightroom selecting an unwanted destination folder. Fortunately I only had to check the destination folder in the right panel to see that it was not correct and select the one I wanted. I will now have to move the files when this happens.

Please don't dumb Lightroom down this way. Power and flexibility are what we expect and need.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Very Annoyed about changes in IMPORT DIALOG for LR CC-2015.2.

Just read about changes to the Import dialog in CC 2015.2 and that stopped me from applying the 2015.2 update. From what I read the problematic issues are these:

CRITICAL TO HAVE BUT WERE REMOVED:

1) Filename is now hidden under a tooltip. It is critical to have this visible on the thumbnails all the time to verify that there are no gaps between images imported previously and this import.

2) The filename preview (when renaming) is gone. Come on guys, how do you know that you picked the right rename preset, or coded it right without being able to see the result?

3) Move is gone. You can only Add the photos at their existing location or Copy the photos to a new location. I use "MOVE" all the time. With "Copy" if the import terminates before completion or I did not select all the images in a folder for importing, knowing which images were processed, and can be manually deleted from the source folder, is a laborious manual effort of comparing the source and target folders, file by file. With the no longer available "MOVE" this took care of itself. Not having MOVE is a big productivity hit..

4) Duplicate photos can’t be imported (without workarounds). Sometimes importing duplicates is exactly what I want to do.

5) Destination panel folders preview is gone, including the italic preview showing your chosen folder structure, the check marks to their right, and the volume information showing how much space was available on each drive. Being able to see this info is critical in avoiding errors.

USEFUL TO HAVE FROM TIME TO TIME BUT WERE REMOVED"

1) Zoom is gone from the Import Loupe view. Absolutely no reason to have removed this.

2) Total file size is gone from the bottom left corner. Absolutely no reason to have removed this.

IF YOU INSIST ON KEEPING THIS "IMPORT FOR DUMMIES" APPROACH, PLEASE GIVE US AN "ADVANCED" MODE WHICH IS THE PRE 2015.2 VERSION JUST AS IT WAS - maybe make which one you get a preference.

Dan
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I ́m glad I ́m not alone. The new import dialogue is looking nice but is unusable in it ́s current state.

I cannot believe that any half professional photographer wanted to have this change.

The hardest thing for me is is the missing destination folder preview. The helped me to understand the different date format ́s which are still not understandable in the new version. It would have been nice to make this more clear and give the possibility to customize the date formats, but instead the whole import dialogue was ruined.

I often imported pictures only for a certain date with the destination preview, which is simply impossible with the new version.

Adobe, ask at least some of your customers before you ruin a tool that was good before. For me this is unbelievable and has to be corrected soon.
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VERY disappointed with the quality of this last release of LR, not only did you remove VITAL features on import, you broke the software and it's slower, previews are not showing up and the editing tools don't work like they did before.
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Like others, the new UI for import is a giant step backwards. I have downgraded Lr to the previous 6.X release.
The key things missing to make it usable:
-- If I click the settings, leave it open. I verify the settings on every import.
-- Eject the Memory Card.
-- Missing create duplicate copy.
-- WTF is the destination folder? How do I find/set it?
-- My existing present did not come forward.
-- The ability to copy and create DNG is either missing/inconsistent or does not work.

This actually makes life complicated enough, that I have considered going back to Picasa.

Tim
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The settings should be staying open when you open it. If it's not, try resetting your preferences.
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Victoria,

I am not saying the settings are lost, I want the advanced panel open every time. I verify the settings before import. I import to a few locations, and this now forces me to perform many additional clicks with the mouse to verify the location, verify the meta data preset....

Tim
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Yup, that's why I mean... the panel should be remembering your show/hide setting. If you had the panel open last time you did an import, it should be open the next time you open the dialog.
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It did not on my Mac. Running Yosemite.
After the headache of downgrading, not planning on upgrading anytime soon to perform testing Adobe should have completed.
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I feel as if Adobe has forgotten that this is considered by many to be a professional level tool. People who use this program professionally probably want control over everything in their workflow.

Wouldn't "Lightroom Elements" have been a better idea for a consumer level tool?
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Terrible, terrible decision. This is an example of a failure to employ expert systems. Remember Beta Testing!!! No Lightroom engineer would have vomited this abortion if they'd simply given it to the users to comment first.
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Adobe, Please bring back the possibility to import duplicates!
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I'm not happy in the least.
Looks like someone from Disney designed this new import dialog box.
Many features that were ALWAYS used, are now gone; eject after import, "move" photos are the most important to me but many of the others were used as well.
Not impressed, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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I totally agree. Decreased usability for importing images. I had no issues with the old solution. It was faster, did not show empty/black/hidden preview thumbnails, it was easier to switch between multiple target folders, ...
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I think this is the WORST software "update" I have ever seen by any company anywhere. Period.

It has absolutely destroyed my user workflow. I am speechless. Update the graphics... that's one thing. But updating it by actually destroying the functionality of LightRoom as a DAM is absurd.
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I am going back to Lightroom 5 stand alone. Nothing in 6 has improved. 6.2 is an insight into awful project management. Would have been good to have listened to customers, not sure you even asked customers first though. Very disappointing.
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Update: Just purchased Capture Once Pro 8. I have to say that although the interface is different, the improvement in RAW processing (Nikon) is astounding in Capture One. The difference in the RAW rendering quality is significantly better than Lightroom. Thanks Adobe for sending me to a competitor who offers a superior product. Nice!
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Adobe, WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING!

And, if you are wondering, yes, I was yelling, hence the large caps.