Photoshop: New document's ruler is not rendered

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Hello.

When I open New Document, when I copy an image and then
go to File-->New Document and create a document with transparent
background I get this:





On this image I am showing the New Document with corrupted ruler
rendered and behind it a normal ruler on another empty document.

 

In
order for the ruler to show up, I need to press CTRL+R (on and off).
Sometimes New Documents open correctly and I can not pin point the
problem. For example just now, while typing this message I double
checked the steps and New Document opened with corrupted ruler with
White Background, Transparent Background, but with Other Background
chosen it opened with normally rendered ruler. Then I tried again and
document opened fine with transparent background. Number of opened
documents does not have any effect as well, it happens on the empty
workspace too.

 

At
first I thought that the size of the document in the clipboard affects
the new document, but it is not the case. I am failing to pinpoint the
exact conditions under which this is happening. Has anyone else ran into
this problem? If yes, is there a way to fix it?

 

Tweaking GPU options in prefs does not have any effect.

 

Win 10x60 Ent

GTX 970 Strix 4 gig

Adobe Photoshop Version: 2015.1.2 20160113.r.355
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  • Confused and want to resolve this.

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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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I would suspect a bad video driver.
Determine what video card you have and go *directly to the manufacturers website (nVidia or ATI/AMD)* and download the latest driver: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2012/07/photoshop-basic-troubleshooting-steps-to-fix-most-issues.html#UpdateDriver


Just doing Windows Update won't give you the latest and greatest drivers. You must go directly to your card manufacturers website to check for driver updates.


After you have the latest driver, Try restoring your preferences: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2012/07/photoshop-basic-troubleshooting-steps-to-fix-most-issues.html#Preferences

If doing both of those doesn't help, select Edit>Preferences>Performance... and uncheck “Use Graphics Processor" and restart Photoshop.
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But the thing is, I kind of want to use my graphic processor though.
I might try the preferences. thank you.
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Did you update the driver? That's the first solution.
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Yes. I am ok with PCs, driver has been updated the same day it came out, 3/28/16. I haven't reset prefs yet and I am suspecting that it might be the drivers. Because this is happening upon the first PS launch, then everything turns back to normal. This is quite peculiar.
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Jeff,
Seems like it is an anti aliasing problem with a combination of Photoshop+Nvidia GTX 970 drivers. :(
I have disabled the anti aliasing in Prefs. Have you seen people reporting something similar in the past?
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I have not seen that particular issue reported. It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Directions for sharing your system info from Photoshop: 
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/photoshop_how_do_i_share_my_system_information
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Here we go:
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Operating System: Windows 10 64-bit
Version: 10 or greater
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:10, Stepping:9 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX
Physical processor count: 4
Processor speed: 3502 MHz
Built-in memory: 16328 MB
Free memory: 9495 MB
Memory available to Photoshop: 14540 MB
Memory used by Photoshop: 80 %
Modifier Palette: Enabled.
Design Space: Enabled.
Artboards: Enabled.
3D Multitone Printing: Disabled.
Highbeam: Disabled.
Image tile size: 1024K
Image cache levels: 4
Font Preview: Medium
TextComposer: Latin
Display: 1
Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1080, right=1920
OpenGL Drawing: Enabled.
OpenGL Allow Old GPUs: Not Detected.
OpenGL Drawing Mode: Advanced
OpenGL Allow Normal Mode: True.
OpenGL Allow Advanced Mode: True.
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clgpu[0].CLVendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
clgpu[0].CLVendorID=4318
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clgpu[0].CLBandwidth=1.42607e+011
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License Type: Perpetual
Serial number: 91198102131039046011
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\
Temporary file path: C:\Users\xtcmax\AppData\Local\Temp\
Photoshop scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
  Startup, 931.0G, 382.3G free
Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\Plug-Ins\
Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Plug-ins\

Installed components:
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   AGM.dll   AGM 2015/09/09-18:52:48   79.567158   79.567158
   ahclient.dll    AdobeHelp Dynamic Link Library   2.0.0.2  
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   dvaui.dll   photoshopdva   8.0.0  
   dvaunittesting.dll   photoshopdva   8.0.0  
   dynamiclink.dll   photoshopdva   8.0.0  
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   libifcoremd.dll   Intel(r) Visual Fortran Compiler   10.0 (Update A)  
   libiomp5md.dll   Intel(R) OpenMP* Runtime Library   5.0  
   libmmd.dll   Intel(r) C Compiler, Intel(r) C++ Compiler, Intel(r) Fortran Compiler   12.0  
   LogSession.dll   LogSession   7.3.1.70  
   manta.dll   Manta   1.   1.
   mediacoreif.dll   photoshopdva   8.0.0  
   MPS.dll   MPS 2015/08/14-01:13:58   79.566687   79.566687
   pdfsettings.dll   Adobe PDFSettings   1.04  
   Photoshop.dll   Adobe Photoshop CC 2015   16.1.2  
   Plugin.dll   Adobe Photoshop CC 2015   16.1.2  
   PlugPlugExternalObject.dll   Adobe(R) CEP PlugPlugExternalObject Standard Dll (64 bit)   6.1.0  
   PlugPlugOwl.dll   Adobe(R) CSXS PlugPlugOwl Standard Dll (64 bit)   6.1.0.164  
   PSArt.dll   Adobe Photoshop CC 2015   16.1.2  
   PSViews.dll   Adobe Photoshop CC 2015   16.1.2  
   SCCore.dll   ScCore 2015/04/17-16:55:22   80.1017022   80.1017022
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   svml_dispmd.dll   Intel(r) C Compiler, Intel(r) C++ Compiler, Intel(r) Fortran Compiler   12.0  
   tbb.dll   Intel(R) Threading Building Blocks for Windows   4, 3, 2015, 0408  
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Required plug-ins:

   3D Studio 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Accented Edges 16.1.2
   Adaptive Wide Angle 16.1.2
   Angled Strokes 16.1.2
   Average 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Bas Relief 16.1.2
   BMP 16.1.2
   Camera Raw 9.5
   Camera Raw Filter 9.5
   Chalk & Charcoal 16.1.2
   Charcoal 16.1.2
   Chrome 16.1.2
   Cineon 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Clouds 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Collada 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Color Halftone 16.1.2
   Colored Pencil 16.1.2
   CompuServe GIF 16.1.2
   Conté Crayon 16.1.2
   Craquelure 16.1.2
   Crop and Straighten Photos 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 16.1.2
   Crosshatch 16.1.2
   Crystallize 16.1.2
   Cutout 16.1.2
   Dark Strokes 16.1.2
   De-Interlace 16.1.2
   Dicom 16.1.2
   Difference Clouds 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Diffuse Glow 16.1.2
   Displace 16.1.2
   Dry Brush 16.1.2
   Eazel Acquire 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Entropy 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Export Color Lookup Tables NO VERSION
   Extrude 16.1.2
   FastCore Routines 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Fibers 16.1.2
   Film Grain 16.1.2
   Filter Gallery 16.1.2
   Flash 3D 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Fresco 16.1.2
   Glass 16.1.2
   Glowing Edges 16.1.2
   Google Earth 4 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Grain 16.1.2
   Graphic Pen 16.1.2
   Halftone Pattern 16.1.2
   HDRMergeUI 16.1.2
   HSB/HSL 16.1.2
   IFF Format 16.1.2
   IGES 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Ink Outlines 16.1.2
   JPEG 2000 16.1.2
   Kurtosis 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Lens Blur 16.1.2
   Lens Correction 16.1.2
   Lens Flare 16.1.2
   Liquify 16.1.2
   Matlab Operation 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Maximum 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Mean 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Measurement Core 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Median 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Mezzotint 16.1.2
   Minimum 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   MMXCore Routines 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Mosaic Tiles 16.1.2
   Multiprocessor Support 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Neon Glow 16.1.2
   Note Paper 16.1.2
   NTSC Colors 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Ocean Ripple 16.1.2
   OpenEXR 16.1.2
   Paint Daubs 16.1.2
   Palette Knife 16.1.2
   Patchwork 16.1.2
   Paths to Illustrator 16.1.2
   PCX 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Photocopy 16.1.2
   Photoshop 3D Engine 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Photoshop Touch 14.0
   Picture Package Filter 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Pinch 16.1.2
   Pixar 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Plaster 16.1.2
   Plastic Wrap 16.1.2
   PLY 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   PNG 16.1.2
   Pointillize 16.1.2
   Polar Coordinates 16.1.2
   Portable Bit Map 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Poster Edges 16.1.2
   PRC 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Radial Blur 16.1.2
   Radiance 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Range 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Render Color Lookup Grid NO VERSION
   Reticulation 16.1.2
   Ripple 16.1.2
   Rough Pastels 16.1.2
   Save for Web 16.1.2
   ScriptingSupport 16.1.2
   Shake Reduction 16.1.2
   Shear 16.1.2
   Skewness 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Smart Blur 16.1.2
   Smudge Stick 16.1.2
   Solarize 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Spaces 16.1.2
   Spatter 16.1.2
   Spherize 16.1.2
   Sponge 16.1.2
   Sprayed Strokes 16.1.2
   Stained Glass 16.1.2
   Stamp 16.1.2
   Standard Deviation 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   STL 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Sumi-e 16.1.2
   Summation 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Targa 16.1.2
   Texturizer 16.1.2
   Tiles 16.1.2
   Torn Edges 16.1.2
   Twirl 16.1.2
   U3D 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Underpainting 16.1.2
   Vanishing Point 16.1.2
   Variance 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   Virtual Reality Modeling Language | VRML 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
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   Watercolor 16.1.2
   Wave 16.1.2
   Wavefront|OBJ 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
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   Wind 16.1.2
   Wireless Bitmap 16.1.2 (2015.1.2 x001 x003)
   ZigZag 16.1.2

Optional and third party plug-ins:

   Alien Skin Autolayer 3 3.0.0 20463 2013-05-30 12:54
   Alien Skin Blow Up 3 3.0.0
   Alien Skin Eye Candy 7 Autolayer 7.1.0
   Alien Skin Snap Art 4 Autolayer 4.0.0
   Blow Up 3.0.0
   Bokeh 2.0.1
   D3D/DDS 8, 55, 0109, 1800
   Eye Candy 7 7.1.0
   Hidden NO VERSION
   NormalMapFilter 8.55.0109.1800
   Snap Art 4 4.0.0
   Topaz Adjust 5 10.0
   Topaz BW Effects 2 10.0
   Topaz Clarity 10.0
   Topaz Clean 3 10.0
   Topaz DeJpeg 4 10.0
   Topaz DeNoise 5 10.0
   Topaz Detail 3 10.0
   Topaz InFocus 10.0
   Topaz Lens Effects 10.0
   Topaz photoFXlab 10.0
   Topaz ReMask 4 10.0
   Topaz ReStyle 10.0
   Topaz Simplify 4 10.0
   Topaz Star Effects 10.0

Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

Extensions:

   Recent Files  1.0.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start\index.html
   Libraries  2.1.24
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.DesignLibraryPanel.html\index.html
   Start  1.0.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start\index.html
   Adobe Color Themes  6.1.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.KulerPanel.html\index.html
   Export As  2.4.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.webpa.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html
   Device Preview  1.1.3
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.preview\PSPanel\panel.html
   Share on Behance  3.0.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.behance.shareonbehance.html\index.html
   com.adobe.preview.loader  1.1.3
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.preview\PSLoader\loader.html
   Export As  2.4.0
      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2015\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.webpa.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE