Necessary upgrades to the tethering capabilities of LR - Take it to the next level!

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Hi guys,
I've been a LR1 user since the beginning, and have upgraded to each version. I love the fact that Lightroom, Camera Raw & Photoshop are so interlinked, and work so well together. It's been one of the reasons I haven't stepped to Capture One.

Version 4 brought us amazing stuff (re-engineered RAW engine, Books,...) but if the following isn't in LR4.5 /5 I'm going to have to reconsider.

You NEED to upgrade the tethering options. They haven't evolved since LR2/3/4 and they're quite pathetic. They are just TOO basic. You should need the options to change your ISO/Aperture/Shutter speed/Metering Mode/... via your computer. Maybe even throw a little Live View in there?Even Capture One Pro allowes you to do so.

Another HIGHLY needed feature (maybe even the most important) is when tethering, LR should offer to possibility to back those tethered images up to another drive/disk/usb key/whatever. I know that Nikon users, when shooting tethered, only have the images on the computer via tether since they won't record to the memory card of the device. Having only 1 device with the images is just too damn risky. It doesn't even have to be instant. It can be a low-priority background task, but it needs to be done. You can select this when importing from a memory card, why not during tethered sessions?

These are really the most important issues I'm facing. I really don't want to switch to Capture One Pro because of the reasons stated above, but if I see that pathetic tethering window in LR 5, I think I'm going to need to. They are just lightyears ahead when it comes to tethering.

I hope this was helpful!

Cheers!
M.M.
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1st: I've never tethered in my life, so keep that in mind.
2nd: It seems like if you just use the camera manufacturer's tethering software and pipe the files into Lr's auto-import directory, then you'd really have a hot setup, no?

And if Lr's auto-import isn't quite enough, then maybe OttoImporter.

Am I missing something? - just curious...
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Rob,
Thank you for the prompt reply.

I've used the method you describe before : Using Camera Capture Pro to capture the images, then setting up a 'Watched' folder in Lightroom that imports new files in that folder into Lightroom. This however, is a tedious and ungodly process and isn't useable in a real studio shoot. The transfertime for a 14-bit 12.3 MP using USB2 is about 5-10 seconds. After that, it takes Lightroom several seconds to recognize there is a new file in the watched folder, import it and create a 1:1 preview for it. There have been instances where this takes up to 30 seconds in total before having a useable preview in Lightroom. You'll understand that it's impossible to work like this.

2) Camera Capture Pro is about 180$ in stand-alone version, and lightroom 150$. Capture One Pro is also along the lines of 150$. I'm not going to spend more than the software I could use to buy 2 software kits to perform the same task, it's just ridiculous. Even more when you know Canon offers their tether software for free. (But this is a complaint I must file with Nikon, not Adobe.)

Lightroom is the direct competitor to Capture One Pro, and it's lost it's edge on this field. I haven't even talked about the Capture Pilot app, which I also feel Adobe should compete with. It's free with Capture One Pro, and it shows the huge leap the have against Adobe in the tethering-field.I hope they can catch up, because as said before, I don't want to change software suites, but I will if I need to.
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Fair enough, and thanks. - although I don't understand why the transfer time and recognition/preview-display times are so high. Oh well...

Cheers,
Rob
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I think it's got to do with the fact that these are 25mb files that need to be schlepped from one folder to another back and forth, being recognized, loaded and such. Therefor, if i can go from 30 seconds to 5 seconds by using 1 app instead of 2, ill take it :)
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Faster is better... - although it seems transfer should be no more than a second or two, and auto-import should recognize it within a second, and at least be able to display an embedded preview within a second. I mean rendering the raws is gonna take a while no matter what ya do, but it seems like it should only take a few seconds from camera to (embedded) preview, to me. I just don't get it...
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Morgan, anyone who has used C1's tethering would know that it has always been more fully-featured than Lightroom (or Aperture). So I don't think it's a question of LR losing its edge in this area - it's more a matter of not catching up fast enough.

In LR4 I was delighted the layout overlay was added, eliminating one big reason for using C1 in some circumstances. But for example only yesterday I was adjusting camera settings such as the ISO or shutter speed directly in C1-7 with the camera suspended from the ceiling. I like the Pilot app too. So I agree it would be great if Lightroom could go further and remove any significant reasons for using another program.

John
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John, you are right about the fact that those capabilities were always more or less present in C1P and its not a question of losing its edge. I think my biggest complaint is the fact they still havent caught up. The pilot app is amazing, and those controls really, really useful. Hope they take notice of this post.