My Edits/ settings are not saving when I export my images. The most obvious being the sharpening tool.

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I've been using lightroom for just over a year now. However, recently I was struck with this huge issue. After I have edited my imaged the settings don't save when I export. It's difficult to pin-point a lot of settings which aren't saving but the most obvious is the 'Sharpening' tool.

I've read many articles and have:

- refreshed my preferences

- deleted my whole catalogue

- deleted, uninstalled and re-installed.

- played with all the export settings.

But, nothing yet has solved the problem. I've contacted Adobe and they couldn't help. They just said I have to wait till the next version is released.

I also downloaded and tried editing images on 'Capture One'. But when I export the images to my desktop I have the same problem.

Can anyone help? 

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What format are you selecting when you export?  What happens if you do something really obvious like B&W?
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Hi Victoria.

I've tried drastically changing the images. And a lot of the settings stick. For example - I drastically changed the colour temperature. Leaving the Image very blue.

When I exported the image the settings saved.

However, as mentioned in my initial question - The main problem is the sharpness tool. But it's difficult to see exactly what saves and doesn't.

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Export as JPEG, reimport the exported photo and view both the edited original and the exported photo side by side in Compare view at 1:1 zoom, and then take a screenshot so we can see the difference you're seeing.
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Here you go. 
The image on the right hand side is the finish product in lightroom. 
The left hand side image is the exported image. 
If I screenshot 1:1 ratio it's not really helpful as you can't see a lot. 
Click on the image and let me know you thoughts. 


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1:1 preview will be the only way to accurately judge sharpening specifically, so perhaps focus it on his eyes or mustache. I can see a difference between them, however, and it appears to be more contrast related than sharpening specifically. What color space are you exporting to? If you run the same test, but this time export to TIFF 16-bit ProPhotoRGB without resizing, what do you get?
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Thank you for your help so far Victoria. 
Here is the 1:1 ratio you requested. I'll run the test now regarding your export changes. 

Also - I forgot to mention that these changes also do not apply when I switch from the Development module to the Library. 

 
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I have tried everything that is mentioned in this forum.

- added noise reduction 
- reduced the sharpening 
- played with detail settings 

Nothing seems to be working. I having been editing my photographs in the same way for nearly a year and half and suddenly this problem has come up. 

It also seems to be effecting the contrast settings I've put in place...
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The settings are not sticking even when no sharpening or noise reduction is added at all...
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OK, that's not normal behavior.

There have been some reports of the Library preview and resized Export images appearing softer than the Develop module preview due to an "incompatible" or "damaged" monitor profile. A quick test for this is to replace the monitor profile with the system sRGB profile for standard gamut monitors or Adobe RGB profile for wide gamut monitors. If this fixes the problem then your best solution is to purchase a hardware monitor calibrator, which is a good idea regardless of this issue.

Follow the below instructions at Victoria Brampton's website to change your monitor profile. You'll then need to close and restart LR to apply the new monitor profile. If the issue persists please upload one of the files with this issue to a file sharing site and we can take a look at it.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-change-my-monitor-profile-to-check-whether-its...
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Thank you again for your support. 

I've tried the above and still no luck....

Any other ideas? 
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Two more things to check. Go to Help> System Info and tell us what version of LR you are using. The latest version is 6.12/CC 2015.1. Next go to LR Preferences> Performance and uncheck 'Use Graphics Processor' and check again. If the issue persists please upload one of the files that exhibit the issue (any file!) to Dropbox or other file sharing site and place the share link in your reply here. Export the file to DNG file format as shown below and upload that DNG file. It will contain your LR settings and help determine what's wrong.

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I just tried exporting with the settings you suggested -  TIFF 16-bit ProPhotoRGB  - but I still got the same result...   :-(


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Are you viewing that in Library module's Compare view, or Develop module's Reference View? I'm specifically asking for Compare view (having zoomed in to 1:1, even if you then zoom out) to get the most accurate rendering. 

The reason I ask is the Develop module Fit view is not completely accurate when high sharpening and noise reduction settings are used. What kind of settings are applied?
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The images I have shown you are from are from the 'Reference View' in the Development module.

So I have now attached all examples below.

Settings 
Development result (as desired). 
2 x Compare view images from the library. 

I dont really see how this is useful because you can't see the changes. Whenever I switch from the development module the settings I have applied disappear. Exactly the same result is visible when I export.

Anyway, let me know your thoughts. 

Settings 


The result I want as seen in the Development module


Screen Shot of 'Compare View in Library' (Tiff file on the left)
 

Screen Shot of 'Compare View in Library'(tiff file on the left)
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That's exactly the behavior I'd expect, sorry. The Fit preview in Develop is rendered on the fly, and therefore is not accurate for judging sharpening, especially at very high values. In other words, the Fit preview you're seeing in Develop is not representative of the exported image.

You need to zoom into 1:1 in Develop to judge sharpening. If you need to judge sharpening on the whole photo at once, the closest you'll get is to zoom into 1:1 in Library (so it renders a full size JPEG preview) and then zoom out again, still in Library.
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Thank you Victoria. 

However, when in zoom in at 1:1 ratio and then switch from different modules you can't see a difference. 
The sharpness appears to be the same.

But once I zoom out again in library/ exported image, the overall image is clearly softer.

Maybe it is a combination of contrasting settings as well.

But the only way to describe the problem is that it clearly looks softer. 

Any more ideas? 
  
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The image may look slightly softer when using Zoom View settings Fit or Fill. This is due to a 2nd interpolation being applied to the Library preview file to "fit" of "fill" the image inside the Loupe window. If you use one of the image pyramid Zoom View settings 1:16, 1:8, 1:4, 1:3, 1:2 it should look slightly sharper. Using these Zoom settings in the Library module are the "most accurate" way of determining what an export file will look like when using 'Resize to Fit.' If it still looks softer than the Develop module preview then there are other issues causing it as already explained. What resolution is your monitor and are you using more than one display