Photoshop CS6: Move tool targeting imprecise

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Move Tool annoyance in Photoshop CS6.
I use the move tool alot in my work, with high fidelity mockups for interface design. I rely on precision and predictability in my workflow. In Photoshop CS6 with the move tool set to auto-select layer, i would suspect the move tool to select the excact element im targeting at which it doesn't. it automatically selects nearby elements, which is a HUGE annoyance and disturbance. It ruins the workflow, and it's unpredicable.

Is there at least an option to remove this behaviour and just make it precise as in previous versions of photoshop?
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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  • frustrated, annoyed, considering alternatives

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Andrew Baxter

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Now if you could just install an update without and error, that would be great.
Even if they fix this, will we be able to update photoshop? Probably not.
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mathias

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What are you talking about? Photoshop updates just fine. Are you not using 13.0.1?
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Nope, I get an update error. Googled it and it's pretty common, solution from Adobe is to reinstall photoshop. Just got disc back from IT, so fingers crossed.
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mathias

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Oy . . . lovely. Didn't know.
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I haven't tried Justin Coombs's method but I think thats not the good solution, Adobe Photoshop team shоuld fix it for web and interface designers.

PS: Guys! If you are reading this, please write your feedbacks because if this message would be huge with their users and feedback Adobe I think will mention this issue, otherwise we would look like a barking dog and Adobe Photoshop Dev team pass through this issue.
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Justin's suggestion is simply an alternate way of auto-selecting layers without checking the move tool's auto-select option. I think most users in this forum would already use the short cut over the enabling the option so it misses the point slightly as the problem would still persist with shape layers within 9px of one another but at least we now have an in-progress status.
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Correct. I think he misunderstood the OP's issue.
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I agree with him, not only its not precise, in Photoshop cc even if you hide the layers and you start to select a range it would start selecting the hidden layers underneath and opens up all the folders. huge bug!
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Just updated to 13.0.3. No fix there. Bummer, I was really hoping.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Any news on this issue? :)
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Iryna Krokhmalna

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Jeffrey or Chris,

could you please disclose at least the rough estimate when this issue will be fixed and why it takes so long?

The community is waiting!
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Warren Harper

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So after 8 months I still absolutely hate this feature and I actually feel angry when I see 'new' Photoshop features released when this hasn't been fixed.
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I'm a UI designer so for me it is also absolutely annoying bug. It is difficult to understand why it is such a problem to fix it, or just put checkbox (somewhere) to turn that "feature" on/off. Adobe, please make PSCS6 not worse than the previous version, it is a tool for professionals but CS6 reduced our productivity in this place. Of course I can still use the previous version, but how long should we wait (and why we bought CS6)? I'm not sure about moving to CC version in the future. :(
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It seems very illogical why you wouldn't give the end user a way off turning this "feature" off. Extremely annoying when designing UI's or any other documents where tight spacing is required.
Another example of a big company failing to respond to user feedback.

Another criticism, why don't your software teams share code. Some of the features in Fireworks, such as convert marquee to path, are far superior to their equivalent in Photoshop.
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This issue is a huge pain for UI work. Not sure why such an issue would take over a year to address.
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Mark Lee

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This issue plus a gazillion more like this one.
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just want to chime in to hopefully encourage the PS team to hurry the #@% up. this bug sucks; what a disaster "upgrading" to CS6 has been. In my experience it's the buggiest PS (or rather PoS) upgrade yet.

It's definitely not just auto-slect. I right click with the move tool all the time to quickly select layers visually instead of scrolling up and down a layers palette full of 100s of layers. Oh, how useful! You're showing me 25 other nearby layers! Joy!
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Amon Jafarbay

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waiting sooo long.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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11⁄2 years waiting for nothing... Now my company has upgraded to CC. Problem fixed, BUT now the "Zoom when sliding mouse from side to side" is the new issue. Cant seem to switch it off. Again this is an introduction of a new behaviour that has been working fine in many generations that is now changed without possibility to switch off.
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C'mon Adobe, still no fix? This issue lowers productivity.
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Ulrik

Is the layer you are targeting set to less than 50% opacity? Or is the portion of a 100% opacity layer that you are clicking on have less than 50% opacity?
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atwixtor

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Chris - just tested 50% vs. other opacities with selection and it doesn't seem to make a difference, unfortunately. The triangular vector layer shown in this screenshot is completely un-selectable at 100% (10px wide). Are there any updates on this issue, Chris/Jeff?

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Can you send me that image? Retoucherpro@mac.com
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-- Just checked on a coworker's machine (OS X 10.7, with Photoshop CS6) and experience the same issue.
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The only way that I have been able to reproduce this is with the option to Show Transform Controls turned on. With it on it selects what I am targeting and leaves it in Transform mode... which means that selecting something adjacent to it, even within 10 pixels, makes it impossible to select because its expecting to do a transform on the previously selected pixel area. I can select something else OUTSIDE of the transform area with no problem.
Turning off the Show Transform Controls allows me to select anything regardless of how close or how far away the object is.
I'm not saying that this is the issue that you are experiencing but
PS has always worked this way with the settings that you sent to me.

Try unchecking the setting and see if it clears up your problem. I realize that its beneficial to have the setting selected for designing purposes as transforming is convenient. But if you aren't doing a lot of transforms then turning of the Transform Controls makes sense.
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Chris - thanks for the explanation on targeting around currently selected transform controls. That does ring true as to how I always experienced them (a large transform buffer around currently selected transforming layers), but that is not the trouble I am experiencing.

Even with transform controls off, and completely deselecting all neighboring layer objects, I am still unable to target that small element.

Please check back in about 40 minutes to see this short screen recording: https://vimeo.com/79908370
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Will do. Are you using a Wacom tablet? Wacom Pen? Wacom Mouse? or a third party input device?
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atwixtor

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Magic Mouse - on my coworker's computer, too. Video is ready now!
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That little piece of vector is set to 50% ... but it should still work. See vid...

However, as I said previously 50% density, layer opacity etc can cause it to select the nearest solid object/pixel.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2bhdaa0qve...
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My first post here already explains that changing that small triangular vector to 100% opacity / 100% fill makes no difference with the difficulty of selection. I tried again to be sure but it does not matter in my case what the targeted layer's opacity/fill is.

Secondly, your video shows the document zoomed up several times from 100%. At 100% and even at 150%, I cannot select it. If I zoom in to 300% or more, I have no difficulty selecting that layer.

The issue here is that at 100% zoom, the object that is selected with the V tool does not match the object I am targeting under the tip of the mouse cursor.

Before CS6, as long as I was accurately hovering the cursor over the pixels of the layer I wanted to select, it would select, at 100% document zoom, which is what my example video and issue was recorded at.
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You made no mention of it happening at that view.... However...even as far back as PS 5 it still had the same issue at 100% view... see video.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r02eahgu0yo...
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Ah my bad - I originally said "un-selectable at 100%" but I realize that was ambiguous as to whether it referred to opacity or zoom. Waiting for your video to load...
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Have to send it via email... didn't work in the browser for some odd reason.
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At 25 seconds in your video, you actually do successfully select that little triangular layer while at 100% zoom, using the V-select tool. Like I thought, CS5 was extremely accurate with selection. In CS6 I cannot successfully select that item at 100%, while in CS5 you can. Hence this entire thread of concerns...
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I just sent you a new movie using PSCC... also selects at 100%.
This really is a pain... I understand... but its the same as its always been.
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Sorry Chris, I'm not sure where you're going with this except to prove that something is wrong with CS6's selection, by demonstrating how what I want to do works fine in CS5 and CC... Is it that you cannot reproduce my issue in CS6?
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I think there could be a misunderstanding as to what you are identifying my problem as. If it's better, I can jump on a screen sharing session with you to better explain. Thanks.
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Just trying to keep this alive here.

Chris T. had some good thoughts on increasing the DPI of the document, working on it larger for more accurate selections, then returning it to the intended DPI/size, as another workaround (thanks Chris).

If anyone else wanted to try selecting that little triangle from my screen shot in CS6 at 100% document zoom, I can send along the PSD for experimentation. It'd be good to further affirm that it can't be selected, and that this problem isn't something odd on my system!
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Definitely not an issue with your system atwixtor. I've been waiting for a fix for this 'feature' for years now.
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Any progress on this from Adobe? I'm on Photoshop CS6 version 13.0.6.
It's the only major issue I have left with CS6.
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What?! no fix?! How unlike you guys, Adobe. I guess if you don't have a CC subscription you don't deserve a functional product. A thousand bucks doesn't buy much these days, does it?
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I found a solution ! before dragging object with move tool click ctrl \ command and then there is no auto correct object placing!