Photoshop CS6: Move tool targeting imprecise

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Move Tool annoyance in Photoshop CS6.
I use the move tool alot in my work, with high fidelity mockups for interface design. I rely on precision and predictability in my workflow. In Photoshop CS6 with the move tool set to auto-select layer, i would suspect the move tool to select the excact element im targeting at which it doesn't. it automatically selects nearby elements, which is a HUGE annoyance and disturbance. It ruins the workflow, and it's unpredicable.

Is there at least an option to remove this behaviour and just make it precise as in previous versions of photoshop?
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Could you provide more info about what you're seeing?

The layer auto select works right under the cursor.

But we have seen video driver problems that can cause the cursor to draw in the wrong place.
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off-topic:
Chris, first of all, thank you for your response. Despite having seen some users unduely lashing out at you in the face of frustration, you continue to create a bridge between users and Adobe both here on Photoshop.com and also the user Adobe Forums. I seriously applaud you for that. Please keep it up. Because you're actually involved in the dev of Photoshop, the insight you offer is very valuable. I often find your posts enlightening.

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on-topic:
Chris, "The layer auto select works right under the cursor. "

-- Yes, but only when attempting to select non-vector layers. When trying to select vector layers, the top-most vector layer is selected if you click within 9px (Thank you Jason R. - post #9) of it! This means that anything less than 9px away from that top-most vector layer is NOT selectable with the Move Tool . . . unless you zoom in, in order to circumvent the 9px "selection helper" buffer. This means the 9px buffer is screen pixels, not document pixels.

Chris, sit down and design a detailed pixel-perfect user interface in PS CS6 (like we do) and tell me you don't want to donkey punch your LCD after a few minutes of just trying to simply get around your PSD to make needed edits, etc.

User interface-related quirks hit very close to home. The frustration they wreak is very damaging to user morale.

Please, please put in a good word for us with your team/superiors and see if you can't render a solution to this unnecessary frustration.

(Needless to say, there are MANY good things to be happy about in PS CS6, but this particular issue is so fundamental it seems to overshadow other good "improvements".)
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I've attached a picture. Say I'm trying to target the red box with move tool (with auto-select layer turned on).

The example-cursor i have drawn is 10px away from the black box. When I click and drag to move the element, you would expect that it selects and moves the red box. But instead it selects the black box - I experience it doing it up to 10px outside the element on top.

Know what i mean? Would this be a video driver problem?

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That could be a video driver issue if the cursor is frequently off position from it's effect.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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It only occurs with the move tool, other tools work fine.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Drivers are up to date now, same issue...
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I have the same issue. And I'm pretty sure that Photoshop tries to "assist" the user with the selection but fails to do so.

It's recommended to have an option to turn off any assisting features (in software).
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I agree with Kaupo if that's the case. An ability to turn this off would be perfect. I like the rest of the new photoshop, but this bug/featuer is causing me not to upgrade in the company.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Is there no way to turn this off?
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Orangutan User2

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I also suffer from this problem. I need pixel perfect accuracy for my design work and this is EXTREMELY frustrating.
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David Rueda

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This is real folks please fix it...

its pretty much a mess when you deal with a lot of small layers.. icons, etc.
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I've found exactly the same problem in my work. It's baffling to me that this is the only thread I've found about it.

To be more clear:

It seems to be a software 'assistance' feature to aid the user in selecting a layer. Each layer seems to have a clickable "halo" of 9px surrounding it (I measured!). Clicking within this area will select the foremost layer, rather than the layer behind it - even if the pointer is visually pointing to the layer in back.

The 9px remains constant regardless of the zoom level – so, I can work around the problem by zooming in and then clicking... but that's annoying.



This might be useful for folks doing less-detailed, pixel-perfect work, but for UI design it's super-frustrating. It's strange, because so many *other* features in PS6 have made UI work better. (vector shapes snapping to the pixel grid, etc.)

I agree that this should be turn-off-able with a checkbox - if not removed outright. :)
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When this autoselect problem is afflicting your Move Tool, a better-than-nothing solution is to right-click on the problem area, which provides a context menu of the layers. At least it does on a Mac. Hopefully, it can be done in Windows, too.

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Yeah, but when you sit with a +100 layers document, working all day long with this technique just isn't doable... I would rather work in Paint ;)
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Well, I did say only "better-than-nothing solution." :)
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Iryna Krokhmalna

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Got the same problem and it drives me mad at Adobe. Please fix that! It's uber-frustrating.
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Alex Flomov

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same problem
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Michael Wright

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Adding to the thread.... Same problem, very annoying.
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I wish I could upvote this topic 100 times. It is very very annoying.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Please remember to +1 this issue at the top, i only see 5 votes but 8-9 people agreeing that it's an issue.
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Oliver Lukman

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We should start a hunger strike or something.
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Anatoly Sinelnikov

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I'm actually want to downgrade to CS5 because of this!
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Adam Gerthel

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+1

It's extremely annoying
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vote your plus one up at the top.
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fran

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the same thing is happening to me and right at this moment i am spending my time looking for a solution instead of working.
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I have face a strange problem that is in tiff photoshop file no one option will be selected by move tool. instead of selecting it drag just deem red color automatically as i drag it. What will be the solutions for this problems. could you help me? plz!
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That is completely unrelated to this topic, please create a new topic, and provide more information so someone can help you.
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Using the Auto-Select function the select area extents past the layers own canvas. Example: if a layer is 100x100px the select area goes further, to 104104px (It pics the layer on top). This is a huge problem when you're working with interface design! – And was working perfectly fine in CS5,5.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop CS6? Auto-Select "padding" around layers makes precise selections difficult.
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This issue appears to reach across several tools and has been mentioned in other posts that have now been retitled, merged or deleted.
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Can not seriously believe the PS development team did this, knowing the type of customer who uses their product – high end, UI and Web designers with 100+ layers who need absolute accuracy. Did they not think that developing software for people who cannot accurately select things with their mouse, while forgetting people who need precision was a bad idea.
Please fix this immediately or I'm going back to CS4 where the user's mouse accuracy seemed to matter.
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Its a very huge problem to web and interface designers. I'm actually going to use CS5 because of this issue, I need precise selection tool. Before I could select an object which is behind the other even if it hass 1 px visible border
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Seeing as though my original message was deleted by Chris Cox I'll once again express my frustration at this annoying feature.

This feature is highly annoying.
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Off topic posts, misleading posts, trolling, and posts that violate the rules of use for the site are regularly deleted.

We're still working on this issue, we just don't have anything to communicate at this time.
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Ulrik Groth Andersen

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Hey Chris. Does that mean this issue can be considered as acknowledged or how does that work?
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Iryna Krokhmalna

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Is there any progress on this issue? Have Adobe acknowledged this problem?
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Iskender Iskender

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I guess it will not be fixed unless here would be at last hundreds of complaints about this issue
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:) Hopefully not. This issue - http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh... -
is resolved with 42 people in, and it was also a huuge issue then.