Photoshop: more vector shapes with controls / smart shapes

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more shapes with controls like the adobe fireworks or adobe rome

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pixelmator:
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
smart shapes in photoshop cc.


this would be very interesting and productive. Pixelmator has implemented and is great.
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Affinity photo. Includes many dynamic forms.
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please, more dynamic shapes.
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> please, more dynamic shapes.>

I wonder at what point Adobe begins to feel like it's cannibalizing its own software? AI has dynamic shapes. Astute Graphics is a plug-in for AI that has even more flexibility with its Dynamic Shapes plug-in. Should Adobe not put their effort there, where vector artists live, leave a few Photoshop resources for pixel-based image editing? Dynamic Shapes are pretty useful, certainly, but if you're doing a lot of vector work, maybe Illustrator is the app to go to and plead for it to become more developed and useful?

The docu-centric approach would allow us to use whatever modules we needed at a given stage in our document development, rather than jump into and out of full applications, but I'm not hearing Adobe say anything about that. <G> Maybe no one has figured out the programming for that sort of thing.
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Seeing the shape changes in the design of your poster in real time is much more productive.
I do not like designing a shape in Illustrator and then going back to photoshop and having to update the smart object to see the changes.

I also do not think it's a very complex programming: Pixelmator and Affinity photo use it.
It is not about cannibalism, they should program common tools.
The same nucleus. I think adobe should rearrange its code.

Affinity designer and Affinity Photo are 2 different applications that share some tools.
Given the speed of development they lead I do not think they are programming 2 times.
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> I also do not think it's a very complex programming: Pixelmator and Affinity photo use it.
It is not about cannibalism, they should program common tools.>

This has come up numerous times—it seems obvious that when they share tools and features, they should be identical, but they seldom are. In theory, I totally agree. It's what we all want. But I remember one of the biggest deals was when they revamped type in AI, way back around AI 10, I believe it was, but it still wasn't going to play entirely well with ID. That's when they told us it couldn't do what we expected because they couldn't have exactly the same type engines. ID was built ground up much later than AI. This seems to be what Adobe is stuck with—almost all the apps came from somewhere else long ago, and their foundation is different. So what seems to us as easy to do, in fact will take quite a bit of development and always runs the risk of breaking something important.

Affinity has that edge, at least for now. They can rapidly develop because they based Affinity Photo on Affinity Designer's own code. They didn't buy Corel's photo editing app and make that the base of Affinity Photo, which would be the equivalent to what Adobe did with its apps. Adobe will have to address this, but it's going to have to be creative about solutions, OR rewrite the entire Adobe conglomeration of apps at once.

I'm sure there are ways to improve how the apps work together beyond how Smart Objects currently work and without filling each app to the gills with every other app's feature set. Something that brings us a step closer to the docu-centric model. I'm personally happy to have a little of everything in PS so if I have a very simple task, I don't have to save a file, launch another app, import that file somehow, do the minor task, resave, go back and open it in PS. . .

But otherwise, I see so much room for improvement in pixel editing that can't be done in AI or ID or DW or PP, I would like to see all Photoshop's resources used to expand and optimize Photoshop's own specialized workflow.
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There are some arrows and stars, but they are pretty good hidden :-D 
http://sklad.bereza.cz/00-jarda/00_screenshot/2017-02-01_184322.jpg

And once you place this, you can't easily change parameters.  But interesting thing is that some of these shapes has some info about their initial state. But they are not smart and you can't change their parameters like in case of square. http://sklad.bereza.cz/00-jarda/00_screenshot/2017-02-01_185153.jpg (keyOriginType) So maybe adobe intended more smart shapes but they did't do it.