LRcc - application development is S L O W

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I was so excited when LRcc came out.  i subscribed the same day and was looking forward to the cloud way of development.  I expected the initial release to be a 'beta' which, in the Google established way, meant a production ready service but without all the polish and features the team wanted to drop the Beta monicker.  I looked forward to frequent small updates based on customer feedback.  I have been so disappointed.  

It seems to me that the focus has been on features first rather than usability - like the management goal is to have feature parity with LR.  I get that and some of it needs to happen but what will win the real praise is that the app is easy, intuitive and preferable to use.

It's 2018.  Why are Smart Albums seemingly so difficult?  Why is key-wording an agricultural experience?  Why is Reject / Delete a poor workflow and quite so binary (Aperture set a much higher bar)?  Why has Adobe forgotten than in the world of thousands of photos, Digital Asset Management is as important as filters for the social media types?

Trolling is not my aim here.  This is sincere feedback.
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olivier Guilloteaux

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You are totally right. It seems more than slow. It seems stopped.
No roadmap. 2 version of a software which lakes so much functionality

In fact I'm really afraid and can't stand remember adobe revel which was exactly on the same side. Missing funtionnality, no road map and finally service was shut down

Sad..
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Hi Olivier,
I thought Revel was great, albeit limited.
One of the reasons Revel closed, according to Tom Hogarty in the closure press release, was to concentrate on one Photography product.
So Lightroom CC is definitely a step up from Revel in terms of functionality, even if it’s based on the same structure.
I don’t think it will go the same way as Revel and depending on uptake, Adobe may see it as the future of Lightroom (even if it doesn’t appeal to some of its traditional audience).
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Hi

I do not hope it will go the same way.
I really dream a merged software "classic <> CC" which embedded the best of 2 worlds. I mean real photo manager (including full key word, switch library , face recognition, printing...) and a full-cloud sync (I mean we can understand and select where are the originals, virtual copies etc) and a moderate price if we don't need Photoshop. and/or 1Tb data.

But obviously I'm dreaming of a world where software creators listen to the real need of users instead or creating a double monster software where some courageous people needs to create a blog to explain the difference and use of this double monster
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Thanks for the feedback GoLo.

I just went back and counted, and between October's release (which you mentioned) and the April release, we've had:
all versions - new Auto
all versions - new Profile system
desktop - Tone Curve
desktop - Split Toning
desktop - Edit Capture Time
desktop - Full screen
desktop - network storage
desktop - add copyright at import
desktop - filter by sync status
iOS & Android - watermarking
iOS & Android - perspective correction
iOS & Android - grain, sharpening & noise reduction
iOS & Android - Web Gallery share options in-app
Android - search using Google Assistant
Android - full resolution edit
iOS - left handed mode
and those are just the main things.

It's true that many of those features already existed in Lightroom Classic, but that's not so much about managers wanting feature parity, but more about users requesting those features be made available on the LRCC apps because they appreciated them on Lightroom Classic. 

They don't offer a roadmap in advance, because life happens. Things can be more complicated than they first look, etc. 

However, we do all have the opportunity to influence their priorities by voting on feature requests here, and adding our own too. Here's a link to the feature requests for the LR CC desktop app https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_lightroom_cc?topic-list[... and one for the mobile apps https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_lightroom_mobile?topic-l...

If you can't find an existing request for an improvement you'd like to see, add a new thread and make sure you just stick to one per topic, so that other people can vote on that improvement too. For example, you said "Why is key-wording an agricultural experience?" and "Why is Reject / Delete a poor workflow". Can you expand (in separate threads) on how you think they can be improved, and how that would benefit your workflow?
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I do usually appreciate every word you wrote, Victoria. You're a very important person in this community. Really.
But, nobody can be happy with for exemple an update about full screen (???!!) or network storage. (From October to April, a full 7 seven months!!!)
What is the next update? Video compatibility? Tag editing? Printing (LOL) in 10 months ...
No we need to look at the big picture. Adobe don't know what to do and we the users have to live with 2 software thats all together can't even complete.

LR CC lakes so much feature and is so slow in development it will need 3 years to fulfill the gap between LR classic and LR CC.  At this speed, opponent will offer something powerful, user friendly and human being understandable (I hope).
And it will cost all of us the beta testers (I consider we are beta tester and banker) a full 12-20€/month during 3 years with on one side a slow Lightroom Classic with no road map (again) and on other side Lightroom CC thats lakes so much feature (With no road map again).


Soory I do not want to troll but really all this is totally nonsense,
 
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I'd love faster development too Olivier, but it would also be full of bugs as a result. As it stands, LRCC is pretty bug free, and I'm glad they're taking the time to do it properly, instead of the "half-a-job" development we see in some other areas.
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you're right for this
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Hi Victoria,

thank you for the reply.  It's really thorough and much appreciated ... but also highlights that the effort is still on anything except making LRcc a good DAM.

Everything I mentioned has a topic running.
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Great, thanks for sharing those links. They're all quite popular requests, so hopefully they'll see the light of day sooner rather than later.
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One thing to consider is that Abobe has four versions to develope. iOS, MacOS, Android and WIndows. This is no small project.

Of course I’d like V2.0 to have been released yesterday. I’m tying to take a beep breath and be patient (not my strong suit ) . As Victoria said , LRCC had been mostly bug free. THe features is has work very well.

Smart Albums, Please!!! I hope we don’t have to wait until October and Adobe Max for V2.0 and a big announcement.