Lightroom: Adjustment brush develop history honored.

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After making an adjustment brush to some slightly over exposed clouds, i took an image into PS/SE2 and played with the structure (clarity) and noticed i had missed some minor edges of where the clouds met the hills.

When i returned to the LR develop and re-opened the pin to make some extra minor adjstments, i couldn't remember the brush settings (feather, flow, density).

The problem was then trying to then match the subtleness of the original mask.

If i make one adjstment brush corrections with certain settings....

eg
Feather - 62
Flow - 62
Density - 62

and then go and make a new adjstment brush with different settings,

eg
Feather - 40
Flow - 40
Density - 40

If/when i return to edit the first adjustment brush (as above) the feather flow, density settings are not honored as per the original choices made (62, 62, 62), but rather are the same settings as the 'last' adjstment brush (40,40,40).

I can not believe i haven't noticed it before (i thought it was a bug of 3.4) but more importantly can't believe that this is not a gimmy in LR's metadata principal.

Specifically, any settings used are history step in the develop metadata and should be honored.
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Rob Cole

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Would you mind clarifying the feature you are requesting. I've got the general idea I think, but I'm not sure exactly.

I mean, I would not want the brush settings to necessarily follow each click in the edit history, since sometimes I just want to back out some strokes then add some strokes using the present brush settings (or just check some stuff without affecting present brush settings..). On the other hand, it would be nice to have the *option* of continuing in the footsteps of previous edits. Some have suggested having brush presets too, more than just 'A' & 'B' I mean - what d'ya think?
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Follow my example.

Make one brush adjustment and then go to another part of the image and make a different one with different feather, flow, density settings.

Now go back to the first pin. What are the feather flow and density numbers? You will see that LR does not revert the sliders to those settings, but rather honors the 'last' brush settings slider/numbers.
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So you want it to track the *last* edit of the selected pin? Each pin can have a multitude of different strokes applied - so a brush could conceivably track prior edit strokes as well...
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I wouldn't want the present behavior to be replaced with this newly proposed behavior, since sometimes I would want to paint with the present settings of the brush regardless of what the last edit was on a pin, but I do like the option. So for this FR/Idea to gain traction, it may help to rephrase the FR/Idea as posing another option rather than changing existing behavior, or as some would see it: removing an existing feature.
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I wonder how widely used A & B are. I know I almost never do. I wonder if one were sticky with the pin and one were just "last used", if that would suit both use cases nicely.
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I'm guessing the A&B users would object - but maybe add a 'C'... - I think you are on to something. I especially like being able to eat my cake if I don't have to give up having it too.

(personally, I keep 'B' with auto-mask on, and 'A' with auto-mask off)
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The pin can be made with many different brushes. Which do you store? Just the most recently used?
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Good points. I generally start a new pin when i need to change settings or need to brush a different part of the image. One thought would be that somehow the history would show some deliniation of change with any different setting used with one pin. ie: each pin could have a number associated with it in the history panel and if changes are made to the above factors a letter correspnds to the change. When one clicks on a history step the mask would reviel itself with the settings applied?
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1a, 1b, 1c, 2a, 3a etc
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I like it. I'm a long (& big) time fan of the edit history list. I'd like to see every pin be given a name (with a sensible default that can be changed) and number and timestamp, and every stroke showing the name of the pin to which it applies, numbered and timestamped too. And also, I very much like the idea of showing the stroke on the image when rolled over in the edit history list. With info like that available (even if not all displayed all the time), I can easily see having a context menu item for brush to assume settings of a particular stroke...
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Biggest thing now is, if i can;t remember the setting applied to a brush and need to make minor adjustments around fine edges etc, then i can not replicate the feather, flow or density, thus resultng in a different affect.
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I get the idea - I guess its up to Adobe now...