Lightroom: Undo function fails and applies a preset instead

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LR4.2 When removing a photo from a collection and then pressing "undo" the photo is not returned to the collection and instead a preset is applied to the next photo.
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William Watt

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Great to hear Ben may be finding a fix, this is becoming an increasingly frustrating bug.
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ZORA PUSKACOVA

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It has been occuring since today morning. Instead of going step backward it applies a certain preset. I am using LR 4.4.
It cannot be undone via EDIT - UNDO either, the only way to get to the preivous status is to go to Develop - History and select a status there.
It sucks,
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bobnudd

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it does indeed suck as I have had this problem for over a year! :) I think Adobe are sorting it now.
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Benjamin Warde, Employee

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Responding to Trevis's question above, this bug is not fixed in 5.4 (sadly, 5.4 was locked and loaded before this issue was figured out).

-Ben
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Hi All,

I have a temporary workaround for anyone who is hitting this problem very frequently. This bug happens because of the way that menus are built on Windows. It can conceivably happen in pretty much any situation, but it becomes much more likely to happen if you have a menu that contains a whole lot of items. The most likely way to end up with a menu that contains a whole lot of items is to have a lot of Develop presets (since there are some menus in Lightroom that will list every Develop preset you have). So, there are two ways to prevent this problem from happening (or to make it much less likely to happen):

1. Reduce the number of Develop presets that you have. Do you have 1,000 presets, but you really only use a dozen of them? Try removing the others temporarily.
2. Avoid using any menu that lists the Develop presets. This includes most of the menus you get when you right-click on an image (because they contain a "Develop Settings" submenu) and also the "Saved Preset" pop-up menu in the Quick Develop panel in Library.

Obviously neither of these workaround is very appealing, but if you're having this problem a lot, I wanted to give you something to try while we work on a fix. If you do try either of these workarounds, I'd be interested to know if it helps.

Thanks,
Ben
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Downloaded 5.4 and now ctrl+z launches a email module. This is worse because now I have to wait for it to compress images and open a pop up window! Does limiting the number of presets even matter now since its a different problem?
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I have had that happen too - not Lr5, but Lr3 or 2 I think (maybe 4). This problem has been in Lightroom for a long time. But I haven't had it happen for a long time - knock on wood..
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The problem has been in Lightroom since version 1. :-( Yes, limiting the presets, and limiting the use of any menu that includes those presets, will still help. It's not a different problem, it's the same problem. The underlying problem can eventually cause random things to happen. Usually that means randomly applying a Develop preset, but as you've discovered, not always. It's theoretically possible for almost anything that can be invoked by a menu command to happen.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Undo (Ctrl Z) randomly applies a preset instead of undoing previous action..


I have had this issue for a number of versions of Lightroom now, (PC) after editing for so long all of a sudden when I attempt an undo, instead of undoing the last action it applies some random preset instead. It has been happening for all versions of LR5 and I think it was happening under LR4 but can't be positive.
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This person reports that the extreme slowth in the Library is directly correlated with a large number of develop presets:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

Another side effect of the core problem with large menus?
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Official Response
This has been fixed in 5.5 (sort of - see below). You can download 5.5 from within the Lightroom application via Help>Check for Updates..., or you can download it manually from here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/download...

It turns out that fixing this correctly involves very invasive, far-reaching changes to the way that Lightroom handles menus on Windows. These changes were too extensive and potentially destabilizing to be thoroughly tested in time for the 5.5 release. So, we have opted for a temporary fix that is incomplete, but much safer than the real fix. As such, it is still possible to hit this bug, but it is much less likely. And if you do hit it, the consequences are much less bad. We plan to provide a real, complete fix in a future update.

Thanks,
Ben
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Cool. We'll upgrade and see how it goes.
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Layla Tichy

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Benjamin Warde, is there an update that will fix this problem for LR 4.4?
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4.4 Will receive no updates. You would need to upgrade to 5.5.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Preset applied when exiting Lightroom (can't undo it).

(Please see screenshot below)
I had a series of images selected, but wanted to close Lr, so hit File/Exit. the program didn't close but instead I noticed that all the selected images had changed and that a preset of mine (highlighted in the LH column) had been applied to them.

(This has happened before when I have tried to exit the software, but with other listed presets being applied. I am quite sure after having seen this a few times that I am NOT hitting the preset by accident!)

I then tried Ctrl-Z to undo, but nothing happens, so I went to the Edit menu and saw that the undo command (first item on list) read " Analog Efex Pro". This seems very odd, especailly as I do not have Analog Efex Pro installed! I do have Silver Efex Pro but rarely use it.

So firstly I think this is a bug of some sort that requires investigation, but secondly, can anyone PLEASE help me undo the preset applied to 60 images that were all individually and lovingly tweaked for high quality printing, and now all have this same preset applied to them. It will take me ages to try and recreate the looks of each one!!!! (I have gone to the "History" menu for one of them, but don't seem to be able to "undo" from there either)

PLEASE HELP ME RESCUE MY IMAGES!!

thanks in advance