Lightroom Classic 9.1: Caption entry

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LR Classic 9.1 changed the way the "Caption" field handles the 'Return' ('Enter') keystroke.  In 9.0 and earlier, it used to work as follows: in the Library mode, Metadata pane, type a caption, hit Enter, and it completes the caption.  If multiple photos are selected, a pop-up asks to confirm that you want the caption-entry to apply to all photos.  In 9.1, it inserts a carriage return. Now, the only way to complete a caption is to move hand to the mouse and click elsewhere.  Super inefficient!!  Thus, a feature request: insert a carriage return only when hitting Enter with a modifier, e.g., shift-Enter return as in many other applications.   Let 'Enter' mean "end of text entry" as before.

Now for the bug report: in my attempt to end the caption with a keystroke, I tried shift-Enter and then cmd-Enter.  The latter started a slideshow!  As it normally does.  But, just before doing so, it popped up that dialog box to ask whether I wanted the caption to apply to all selected photos.  Of course, I could not respond to that dialog because there was a slideshow going.  And I could not exit the slideshow with any keystroke or mouseclick because the dialog was blocking keystrokes.  The ONLY way out was to Force-Quit Lightroom.  ugg!  

This is a serious problem that has hit me several times already.  cmd-Enter is a common mechanism to "end text entry", e.g., adding comments to a Google Doc, so this bug is likely hitting others too.
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I can't reproduce your behavior with my LR 9.1. When I hit <Enter>, it validates the metadata, or in case of several pictures selected, trig the dialog box asking if I want to apply to all the photos.
I understand you're on MacOS and I'm on Windows, but I don't think it should make a difference.
Did you try to reset the preferences?
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I can't reproduce this behavior on my Windows 10 system with LR 9.1. In addition CTRL+RETURN creates a line-break in the Caption. I would assume CMD+RETURN should do the same. Try the LR Preferences reset first and if it persists uninstall and reinstall LR.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

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David, try it again but just hit your Shift and Ctrl keys a few times first to make sure none of them are stuck. Sounds like you had either a stuck Shift and/or Ctrl key, or maybe something on your desk was resting on one of those keys when you were typing in your caption. I know Windows has a Sticky Key feature (which allows the keyboard to act as it the Shift key is pressed when it's not) - check if that's inadvertently enabled as well...
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"the only way to complete a caption is to move hand to the mouse and click elsewhere" Nope, you can also hit Tab and that goes to the next field, completing that entry. Then navigate to another photo, or whatever.

One way to test your Enter key is working is go to the Keyboard Viewer utility (show it in your Keyboard System Preference), and hit enter while viewing the output in, say, Text Edit.
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I just tested my LR 9.1 / Mac OS 10.14.6, and entering Return in the Caption field behaves normally -- it confirms the field and removes the input focus from it.  

This smells like a corrupted preferences file, as Todd suggested. LR not infrequently soils its preferences, and resetting them fixes all sorts of wonky behavior.
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Windows folks - thanks for the responses.  I am not surprised, though, that Windows and Mac work differently in this regard. 

Edmund - thanks for comment about sticky keys.  My keys are not stuck - if they were, I'd be noting lots of other problems.

Carlos - I realize that I can use tab to go to another field, or cmd-arrow to go to the next/prev photo.  I use the latter all the time.  Neither action is always what I want, however, so I need a keyboard-based approach to finalize the caption and end all text entry.

Thanks Todd and John for suggesting that I reset my preferences.  I will try that approach.

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Resetting preferences did indeed fix the problem – "Enter" now completes a caption in the way it used to do. But I really don't want all my preferences reset!  I examined the differences (using a little tool called pldiff) and can't see any preference that would affect this behavior.  Thus I am still looking for leads... perhaps there is a preference setting, one I cannot find, that affects this text-entry behavior.
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In most cases it's due to file data corruption and not a specific Preferences setting you have selected. This can occur during a LR update that incorporates new features, which must be added to the preferences file. That often causes the preferences file to contain redundant data that is no longer needed making it more vulnerable to data corruption . So it's probably a good idea to do a Preferences file reset if it starts to get large (see screenshot below).

You'll need to manually restore your non-default Preferences settings and plugins. I keep a list of all my plugin folders (kept in one top-level folder) and the individual Preferences tabs, which makes the process less painful.

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Did you save away the old corrupted preferences file by any chance?  If so, upload it to Dropbox or similar and post the sharing link here. These corruptions happen to frequently, and the corpse could allow Adobe engineers to do an autopsy.
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Hmm.  I dragged the plist file out to Desktop, then restarted and tested Lightroom.  It worked as it had before, but I'd lost all my favorite settings.  So I dragged the plist file back into place, overwriting the new plist file.  Then I restarted and Lightroom somehow had still lost track of plug-ins, though not other preferences.  And now it is working properly!  So I'm puzzled about why and how LR was "fixed".  And I may no longer have a "corrupted" plist file to upload... hard to know what I have, actually.