Lightroom Classic 8.2.1: Copy and paste develop settings doesn't work

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Since the 8.2.1 upgrade, copy and paste develop settings doesn't work, either with ctrl/shift/c and ctrl/shift v or through the menu/photo/develop settings/copy and menu/photo/develop settings/paste. I went back to version 8.2 and copy/paste settings works fine by both methods. I saw some previous threads where it has has happened after upgrades in the past.

I didn't need any of the new cameras, so it wasn't a big deal for me, but copying and pasting develop settings is a big part of my workflow.

Also auto synch in the develop module didn't seem to work either, but rather than do a lot of testing I just reverted to 8.2
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macOS 10.14.1 + LR Classic 8.2.1 All these functions are operational for me.

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I used Olympus raw (.orf)
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I can't see this issue either.
Could you please provide us some more details, such as your operating system, image format, et all?

Thanks,
Sunil
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I'm still using Win 7 64 on a home built system.  Intel i7 4820k CPU@3.7 GHz,  64GB Ram and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 with 368.81 driver.

I was working on Canon CR2 raw files and was trying to develop a group of four images identically for image stacking. Everything is back to normal since I went back to 8.2.
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I decided to reinstall 8.2.1 to work on the copy/paste problem some more. This time after the upgrade, everything works perfectly. I may have had some glitch occur during the first upgrade.
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Great to know, Mickey.
Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks,
Sunil
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I’m in the Develop module. I adjust one image. I hit the button in lower left “Copy..” I make modifications if necessary in the popup window. Then I select multiple photos, usually immediately following the first one. Then I hit the button in lower left “Paste”. And nothing happens. Sometimes only the first image gets the pasted settings, sometimes none. Usually there is a progress bar saying settings are being pasted but it is only very brief. 

The only way I get the Paste function to work is one image at a time. I cannot do multiples. 

I’m using Lightroom Classic CC 8.3.1. I have the Adobe Cloud account. I’m on macOS High Sierra v 10.13.6. Mostly my images are Nikon NEF 36 MB, but sometimes JPGS. 

This problem has been with me for years now, several upgrades ago, but it is only now I decided I better address it. Would appreciate how to fix this bug, thanks.

Esther


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Same for me, LR Classic 8.3.1
Copy paste

Changes only the first image selected in the banner, even if I select 3 or more.
The Synchronize function ... it works

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Items in Develop, when selected in the Filmstrip have two levels of selection. If you select multiple images in Filmstrip, you will notice one is slightly brighter than the others. This is the "Target", "Most Selected" or "Active" image (depending upon whose tutorials you watch). When in Develop, only this most Active image is going to have any Paste applied. Others will be ignored. 

Develop settings via Copy/Paste can only paste to more than one image if you are in the Grid view.  Then you invoke the Paste via: Photo>Develop Settings>Paste Settings [Shift][CMD][V]

As Yves points out, Synchronize would be the correct function to use in Develop when multiples are selected in the Filmstrip. 

Hope that helps!
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Well, it's not very practical in my opinion, if we only select one image, no worries, will copy them, but if we select several images, why not stick to the images selected, because in development, only the film at the bottom of the screen allows us to select multiple images! It may be necessary to revisit this point and make this function much more fluid to allow us to work much more easily without having to go through synchronization or synch-auto!

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There is a logic to the current behavior, and it's erring on the side of caution. We already frequently hear from people who have accidentally made changes to multiple photos without realizing how many are selected. Perhaps their filmstrip is hidden, or all of the photos in the visible filmstrip are selected so they don't spot the difference. 

So there's an extra switch you need to enable if you want it to work the way you describe. If you want to paste to all of the selected images (rather than synchronize), turn on Auto Sync and it'll work the way you want it to. But be aware that anything (Develop edits) you do with multiple images selected will be applied to all of those photos.
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"I’m in the Develop module. I adjust one image. I hit the button in lower left “Copy..” I make modifications if necessary in the popup window. Then I select multiple photos, usually immediately following the first one. Then I hit the button in lower left “Paste”. And nothing happens."

A workaround is to right-click one of the selected filmstrip thumbnails and choose Develop Settings > Paste Settings.
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...which is far safer than turning on Auto Sync.  The forums have many sad reports of users forgetting to turn off Auto Sync and only realizing it long after it was easy to undo the unintended changes.
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I guess it depends how you think. If you're already expecting your actions to apply to all selected photos, then you could turn it on and leave it on. But I do agree that it's not a command that should be toggled on/off regularly, because then it is hard to remember.
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LR is quite confusing and inconsistent regarding which commands apply to which photos while in Loupe view. It depends on the command, whether the command is invoked by a shortcut, by the menu, or by right-clicking, and which view is showing on the main display.   See here for more details: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/long-time-pet-peeves?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=all&topic-reply-list[settings][reply_id]=20134528#reply_20134528

The current design was intended to avoid accidentally changing selected photos while not realizing more are selected. But I think it has caused more confusion than it avoided, and encouraging users to turn on Auto Sync (as is usually done in the forums) has itself created significant problems for users.  Having Copy/Paste, for example, accidentally change all selected photos is a problem; but leaving Auto Sync turned on by accident and having all subsequent commands silently change the photos is worse.

This mess could be improved a couple of ways. When the user is in Loupe view and applies any command that affects multiple photos, LR could:

1. Pop up a dialog that warns, "You have multiple photos selected, and they will all be changed Proceed? [] Don't show again." If the user didn't want to apply it to all the selected photos, she can simply unselect them.

2. Ask the user if the command should be applied to the current photo or all selected photos.  This is what right-click-Metadata Presets does:



Who knows why this particular command does this but none of the others -- must have been the phase of the moon.

I realize it's highly unlikely that this will ever change at this point. But I think we should stop suggesting to users who encounter this confusion to use Auto Sync.  Applying the command by right-clicking the filmstrip is much safer (when applicable).


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Or, have the 'Auto Sync' label glow bright red(or whatever colour). Even the switch changing to red would do.

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I agree Auto-Sync should be RED when activated. It the most hazardous function in Lr as far as I am concerned. This could be a preference a user could turn on or have the present behavior if off. It is definitely an easy JDI and would save a lot of headaches.