LR Catalog backup is being saved in a folder within a folder after High Sierra was installed

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This is tricky to explain. In the past, when I exited LR (5.7), I was prompted to save my catalog, and the location was always the same: Pictures/Lightroom/Backups. And each backup would have its own file. Nice and simple. 

However, since I installed High Sierra last week (numerous problems with LR!!!), I've noticed that the catalog is being saved in a folder within a folder, AND not just the .lrcat file is being saved (which was what I'd end up with in the past after each catalog save upon quitting LR), but ALSO Lightroom 5 Catalog Previews.lrdata, Lightroom 5 Catalog.lrcat-journal, Lightroom 5 Catalog.lrcat.lock, Lightroom 5 Catalog.lrcat.   (I've never seen this before in my saved files, it was only the .lrcat file each time I backed up).

Each time I'm quitting LR, I am now having to manually select where I want the backup to go: Pictures/Lightroom/Backups (like before); otherwise the default that is set up for me to select (if I just pressed "Save"), would be in a folder that was created for a previous backup and then within another subfolder!  See screen shot below, what a MESS.

I just made a change in the Preferences, and instead of having the Default Catalog being set as the most recent catalog (which is what I've always had in the past), I manually selected the last catalog that I saved, (Today's date).  Then when I went to check out my backups, I saw that the catalog saved like it has in the past (without all the other files I listed above), but along with it this time there was the "previews.lrdata" file.  Not sure why.



I'm not sure what is going on or how to fix this! Please, can someone help me?

(I am also following the thread about the "An error occurred when attempting to change modules" issue...and the presets showing all messed up and not in alphabetical order). I hope to get some help with those too, as they are causing me all kinds of grief and there is no technical support anywhere near where I live. So I've got all my fingers and toes crossed that someone here can help.

Thank you in advance.

TB
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I can’t offer any help I am afraid, running High Sierra 10.13.2 beta and backup structure is as ever and fine!
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It looks like you are using the backup catalog each time you start Lightroom. Go to the Lightroom preferences - General tab, and check what it says about which catalog Lightroom should use. Select your main catalog, don't use something like 'Most recent catalog'.
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I really do appreciate you taking the time to help me.  Earlier yesterday, I did set LR to select the specific catalog I pointed it to (and not the other option, being the most recent one).  I selected a November 19 catalog, but I didn't move its location to the LR folder, it was still in the backups folder.... So that's probably something i need to fix.

As you mentioned in the beginning of your last message, if I go back to the October 16 catalog, then i will lose all edits and imports I did after that date (which has been a lot, including a fairly significant assignment for a client). But if I seem to have everything in the catalog I'm working from now (Nov 19), then shouldn't I be safe with that? And if so, then I need to drag and drop which of the "2017-11-19 1004" files to the users/tawnab/pictures/lightroom folder? All 4 of the individuals files in that folder?  Or just the catalog, or the entire folder? (See screen shot)

The Oct 16 catalog presumably isn't the latest catalog, since the last time it was opened was Oct 16. And the previews file is likely as large as it is, because i was working on 1000s of pics from a trip to Italy and Bali, this is my guess.  But if I see all those previews, etc. in the more current catalog (Nov 19), then I should be safe continuing to use this Nov 19 catalog, but I need to move it out of the backups folder, correct?

I am guessing that as soon as I click on the Oct 16 catalog (to just check it out and see what it shows me), that its date will change to Nov 20... is that right?

I guess what i'm trying to figure out is why would I go back to the Oct 16 catalog, if I've been working off of more updated catalogs (but they just happen to be in the backups folder for some reason).

Is there anything wrong with moving the Nov 19 catalog to replace the Oct 16 catalog, and then using that one as the master source catalog? Is that what I'm trying to sort out here? (I just need to know which exact file(s) to manually move from the backups folder into the LR folder, and then I'll follow the other instructions for telling LR to use that catalog from now on....

Happy Monday...

TB

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I you have a mess with your catalog. You have to make check of all these you are not sure.
Perhaps do you remember the las action you did on Lr? If so, just open the last one (2017-11-19) and check if you can find this very last action. The best would be that you had made an import on that day! or just days before. This is easy to check you can make a dynamic collection to find that

Same way of checking the modification date, you can use a dynamic collection to find these backs. Look at that kind of dynamic collection
A dynamic collection analyse the entire catalog
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Tawna, we are talking about the same thing. You won't go back to the Oct 16 catalog if you follow my instructions. You will overwrite (replace) the Oct 16 catalog with the one you are currently using. So yes: all you would do is move the current catalog (the Nov 19 one) to the main catalog folder. You don't have to move any other files or folders, just the catalog. Exactly as you just asked.
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Completely Ok with you Johan
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OK, I will work on this tonight... Fingers and toes crossed!!! I'll let you all know what happens!
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As Johan says, you have to create your own backup place for LR. DO NOT put these backup files in your System disk. Put these files on an other disk than the one where you put your Lr bata base. 
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Thanks Michel. I have the backups saved on my laptop hard drive, but I also usually copy that catalog (copy and paste the most recent saved version) to my external drive... so I have another backup.....  I do still need help:( Not sure where to go at this point...
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If you need more help, ask me
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Michel DELFELD

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Ok, I will see if somebody of my knowledge has an Lr V5 to test on High Sierra
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Thank you Michel and Johan for your continued help.   I seem to have things working now, catalog is now "housed" outside of the LR backup folder, and I seem to have everything in it. (I will clean up my backups folder soon, as it has 58GB of data with all the various versions from the past few months).

 

But I am curious whether i should upgrade to LR 6 or the CC version....(remember, my backups aren't zipped).  I'm just terrified of glitches, and not sure I want to do this without having someone ready to help me right away if something goes wrong.  

I haven't received any comments on the other string I commented on a few days back (which was marked as "solved").... which is about getting the "An error occurred when attempting to change modules." message pretty much every other time i open LR. When i get this message, I have to close it and then open and again, and then it usually works. But I will keep that for the other string... i might start a new conversation since no one has replied to my question yet.

Thank you again very much for your help!

Tawna
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Upgrading might be a good idea, if only because of the zipped backups! This may or may not be a compatibility problem with MacOS X High Sierra, but you can be sure that any future upgrade of MacOS X is not going to solve it. At best it will not cause more problems (and more likely it will cause more problems). Staying up-to-date is always the best action.
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BTW, you can safely trash all those old 'Temporary Import' files. These are all very old files that were left behind when Lightroom didn't quite correctly.
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I got a message from one of my friend running Lr5 and HighSierra. He got seemly the same problems with Lr5 backups. Today he has made the upgrade to Lr Classic CC and ad me have no problem at all.