Lightroom 6: Applying Develop Presets in the Library Module is not possible.

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In old versions of Lightroom it was possible to apply develop presets of any kind to one or more images via the context menu that appears when you right-click on a photo in the Library Module ("G"-View).

The appropriate section in the menu called "Develop Settings" is still there but it misses to show any user or even Adobe's presets. Where are they gone?
A screenshot (German Version):


I'm using LR6 with an upgraded LR5-Catalogue and the "store settings with this catalogue" setting in Lightroom Options enabled. Maybe that helps to trace the bug: If I click on the button called "Show Lightroom Presets folder" it shows the folder that is one level ABOVE folder where the catalogue file and all the preset folders are.

Can anyone confirm this behaviour?
Best regards, Christian
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The Develop Preset in the Context Menu is no longer there. This functionality was removed in Lightroom 6.

To apply presets to many images at once. Select the images in Grid and apply the preset via the Quick Develop panel.
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and you can't see anywhere if the preset was applied or not. This is really a huge step back.
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Adrian Mihu

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I really loved that function. It was so helpfull when applying basic presets to thousands of photos...now i have to apply them individual and sync only the photos that are designated for those presets. HUGE step back Adobe...huge. Like Janne said.
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Adrian, no you don't. Select them in Grid and apply the preset via the Quick Develop panel.
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Thank you for the tip, Victoria. It will take me a while to get used to it. :)))
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Christian Huehn

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Hi Rikk.

Thank you for your fast answer which explains it straight to the point.

A pity though, that this feature - which i found really useful, since i discovered it a few months ago - was removed. And now I'm forced to have the Quick Develop panel open, which i do not like, as it occupies space that yould be better used to show more image thumbnails.

Nevertheless you have solved my problem.
Best regards, Christian
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Agreed. Why remove something that does nothing to compromise function but instead adds to it. What could possibly be the benefit? I've never even used the Quick Develop panel.
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A lot of people have way too many presets and it was causing significant issues on Windows. There's a previous bug on here on the subject.
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So do I. Over 200 now.

But in all the years of Lightroom use it has never been a problem on any of my Windows machines. And that's a lot of years, since I came from Pixmantec's Raw Shooter pro, a company, which Adobe bought and shortly thereafter released Lr 1.0

If you really want to help improving something:
Please ask our friends at Adobe for a change in the way, how the selection of lens models is displayed in the "Lens Correction" section of the develop module. That's what I call a messy list.

As a champ you may have a better stand there than I as a regular user.

Best regards, Christian
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Create a feature request (idea) for that Christian. The more votes it gets, the better the chance of it happening.
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Well that makes absolute sense to me... and I am not being sarcastic.
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Thank you for your answers.

Yes, maybe I'll do that. On the other hand: why request a feature back that was removed for a reason? Obviously only a few people knew at all that it was there.

And what if enough people request a feature? Will Adobe listen to it and implement it?
Then I better start with asking for a perpetual license of Photoshop, Illustrator and all the other programs that are now only available for rent as part of the creative cloud. I'm sure the plea will get a lot of "Me too's". :-)

Have a nice weekend.
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"Issue with windows" = too long menus? well, would be better to remove this ONLY IF the menu was too long. i always try to keep the develop presets to a minimum
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completely agree - please put the feature back Adobe
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom CC: Grid Mode > Develop Settings > Apply Presets [GONE!].

Lightroom CC: Grid Mode > Right Click a Thumbnail Image > Develop Settings ...where did the Presets menu option go?

You used to be able select multiple thumbnail images in the Grid mode and apple Preset(s) simply by right clicking. Now, this menu options has been removed and all you can do is convert to Black & White or Auto White Balance!

Where has this feature gone? Please bring it back. Very frustrating!

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The Develop Presets are still available, now at the top of the Quick Develop area where it says Custom in your screenshot.
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Maybe a tree explorer can help to organize preset AND reduce the menu size ...

Stéphane
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This is the key feature I use in my workflow and I was really surprised it was removed. Problem with quick develop panel is that you don't have any idea if the preset was applied or not. You have to go to develop view and check that something was applied. What a bummer!
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How is applying the preset in Library, now, different than applying it on Library, before, as far as needing to go to Develop?

Or do you mean you used to do it in Develop and now you have to do it in Library?

And if you used to do it in Develop, how is it different, now, when you can do it in Develop using the Presets panel section and Auto Sync?
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Hi Steve.

Why do I want this feature back? It's all about timesaving and an efficient workflow, where I have a 100% control.

I'm just a hobby photographer, and for all my photography stuff, paticularly for image editing, I've got only a little time to spare - a few hours per week after my regular work. And if editing a bunch of photos (after a larger phototour or an event) takes more than 1 > 2 hours a day, my wife gets nervous > really angry :-)

I'v been using Lightroom since Version 1.0 and have developed a workflow for myself, where almost everything is done manually, as some of the automatic features have unwanted side effects that I don't like - so does the autosync.
On the other hand: many hints for using Lightroom that turned out to be a timesaver (such as rarely known keyboard shortcuts), have been implemented in my workflow to make it more efficient AND still keep complete control.

I better use a screenshot to explain my usual workflow.



1. Import
Import Images with an universal DSLR-RAW-preset that covers 95% of all occasions: profile "Camera Standard" / automatic lens corrections and reduction of chromatic aberrations / Vibrance 25. Uses the embedded previews to save time.

2. Get rid of unwanted images, Run 1: "Blurries and wrong crops"
Go fast through all the imges by using the Caps-Lock and the Flagging keys. That forces me to make proper decisions. Delete all X-marked photos after that run.

3. First improvements
Apply first presets in the Library module - and here is what the screenshot shows - by using the filter and the right-click-context-menu to select photos for De-noising ("Entrauschen") and (sometimes) saturating and initial sharpening afterwards, but not everytime and not every picture. Automatic functions are of no use here. But i know that there is a feature to apply automatic noise reduction depending on camera serial and/or ISO values.

4. Get rid of unwanted images Run 2: "Similarities"
Use the "N" view first and then the "C" view to kick out too similar photos of the same scene. Lightroom will render 1:1 previews automatically when using the Compare view, so this is nothing that I would trigger manually at this stage. Again kick out all "X"-marked photos after this process.

5. Develop the develop-worthy images
At this stage I have about 10% of the original amount of photos (best case), worth to be processed further in the develop module. Sometimes I apply presets here, but not very often. Only for a few selected photos. Adjustments made to one photo and considered to be suitable for others are applied with [CTRL]-[SHIFT]-[C] / [CTRL]-[SHIFT]-[V], as this method is fast enough and keeps me in control. No automatics are used.

6. Final adjustments
After all edits have been made and the images a ready to be exported, there are a few more presets that are applied to the final images - or virtual copies of them in a temporary collection. What I apply here, depends on the "clients" who receive the photos and their intended use. It's usually some sort of sharpening, vignetting and sometimes saturation (reduction or increase, depending on the preferences of the clients). And again the right-click-context-menu is my friend to fastly apply post processing presets.

7. Rendering of 1:1 previews for the export

That's it. Altough it's a lot to read, this is a very fast, yet manual workflow.

I never use the Quick develop panel, since on a 24" monitor there is no space to be wasted with an additional side panel. Same applies for the F7-panel in the develop module (this is set auto-show-and-hide). Going into develop and apply the presets there takes to long - particularly with the sluggish LR 6.
Filmstrip: Not for me - first because of the wasted space and an additional (however minor) performance drain. So this is set completely off.

Only the Library view with its various filter options gives me the best overview and control over a bigger bunch of images when applying (standardized) presets to them.

This is one of the reasons why I returned to Lightroom 5, as this is a core functionality to me. And because there is only one new useful feature in LR 6 for me, and even this is buggy.

Best regards, Christian
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Designating this a "not a problem" when the internet is full of people confused and very unhappy about this change (I Googled it in the vain hope it was a bug).

Reminds me of Laurie Anderson's famous verse: And if the experts say "its not a problem" - its simply not a problem...

Slows me down every time I use LightRoom - and as someone said above there's no real fix to integrating this into the workflow as one could before. Mega fail.
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If it is vital to your workflow, submit a feature request to reinstate it. If there is overwhelming support for reinstating the context-menu applications of presets then it can be considered.
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I don't understand: The feature was removed because there were problems on windows for users with large preset collections. However, the exactly same preset selection sub-menu is still used in the painter tool and in quick develop. The only difference compared to the context menu are some missing additional entries (copy, sync, convert b/w etc.) and the higher-level "root" of the context menu.

So why is the context menu causing problems and the others are not?
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If I understand it correctly, the issue was specific to long OS menus. It didn't affect the custom built UI like the Painter tool and Quick Develop.
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I just released the Any Preset plugin. It lets you work very quickly and efficiently with large numbers of presets in both the Library and Develop modules. If you're missing the right-click preset menu from LR 5, perhaps this plugin will help.
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Works like a charm. A decent substitute, thank you.