Lightroom: Lost focus in hierarchical keywords

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I have large list of keywords and keyword hierarchy in Lightroom 2015.10 (as well as the earlier releases) in Windows 7. When entering keywords, Lightroom mostly opens keyword hierarchy randomly (in various positions) and it losts my focus where I am entering a new keyword in the hierarchy. After that I have to search manually the point in hierarchy where the new keyword is. This is annoying as I use hierarchical keywords to add new taxonimic keywords in my nature shots.
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Olli Pihlajamaa

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Mayuri Jain, Employee

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Hi Olli,

Where exactly you are adding keywords i.e. whether you are going to KeywordList Panel and click on "+" icon and creating keywords or you are going to Keywording panel and adding keyword?
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Also, do you know that you can right-click a keyword in the Keyword List panel and do Put New Keywords Inside This Keyword?  Then when you create a new keyword, either by typing it in the Keywording panel or by clicking "+" in the Keyword List panel, the new keyword will put underneath the chosen keyword.
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Olli Pihlajamaa

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I use almost always right-click to add keywords inside other keywords. The problems often arise after that as i said: after adding a keyword (that goes in a right place in a hierarchy) the focus is lost and the view in the hierarchy goes in some random place. Furthermore, often LR expands hierarchy in places I do not wish (which might be related to the first problem).

There are also additionlal problems:
- when adding a new keyword either by using "+" or by adding it directly from the keyword tag box, the keyword always goes in a certain (and always the same) place in a keyword hierarchy instead of going to top level (what I expect).
- when expanding keyword hierarchy to extend certain length it covers the "Metadata" panel (and I must suppress the "keywords list" panel in order to get to "Metadata" panel.

What I'd wish:
- where ever I insert my keyword in the hierarchy the focus should stay just where the keyword entry has been added
- when I expand keyword hierarchy at certain point it should open only the next level and just only under the keyword I was expanding
- no random expansions of hierachy when i do other actions
- when I add a fresh new keyword (not putting it under any other keyword) I expect it to go to the top level (not in under any other keyword in the hierarchy)
- when expanding hierachy however long I wish, it should not cover the "Metadata" panel.

Olli
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John R. Ellis, Champion

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"when adding a new keyword either by using "+" or by adding it directly from the keyword tag box, the keyword always goes in a certain (and always the same) place in a keyword hierarchy instead of going to top level (what I expect). ... when I add a fresh new keyword (not putting it under any other keyword) I expect it to go to the top level (not in under any other keyword in the hierarchy)"

This happens because you've got that "certain" keyword set as Put New Keywords Inside This Keyword.  This keyword is indicated by a little dot just to its right in the Keyword List panel:



Right-click that keyword and uncheck Put New Keywords Inside This Keyword.
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"when I expand keyword hierarchy at certain point it should open only the next level and just only under the keyword I was expanding"

With a correctly operating LR, when you expand a keyword, LR uses the previous expanded/collapsed state of descendant keywords.  So if you had a hierarchy partially expanded under a keyword, you collapse the keyword, and then expand it again, you'll see the same descendants expanded and collapsed.  

To cause LR to forget the previous expanded/collapsed state, hold down the Opt key (Mac) or Alt key (Windows) while you click on the triangle to collapse it.  When you next expand the keyword, all of its descendants will be collapsed.

Similarly, you can expand all of the descendants of a keyword by holding Opt/Alt when you expand it.

Note that the Folders and Collections panels work the same way.  
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"when expanding keyword hierarchy to extend certain length it covers the 'Metadata' panel (and I must suppress the 'keywords list' panel in order to get to 'Metadata' panel."

Are you not seeing the scroll bar that scrolls all of the panels on the right side of LIbrary?



If you don't see that scroll bar, please post a full resolution screenshot of what you do see in Library.