Photoshop CS6 linear workflow settings confusion

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How can I use pictures with linear workflow in Photoshop CS6? it always shows wrong colores.
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Hi, now I've got a workflow to improve this case.

- Simple open a document with linear color space as smart object and use the color settings of the document itselfs.
- dobble click on smart-object and change the color profile from linear colore space to your favourit settings
- save smart object

now the colors are save.
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OK, it only works, if I reduce the document to background. d**n.
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Your description still doesn't make a lot of sense. Gamma 1.0 workflows are simple, and nothing has changed in that regard in recent versions of Photoshop.
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If you're talking about a gamma 1.0 workflow -- it's the same as always: just use a gamma 1.0 profile for your documents. None of that has changed in CS6.
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Hi Chris Cox,
thanks for answering.

I will explain you what the problem really is:
I'm a screen designer and shortly we got the combination Adobe CS6 and Cinema4D R13. Since we got Cinema4D R12 I rendered out multipass-pictures with linear color space cause the colors looks better.
With Adobe CS5 I haven't got any problems with color management because if I insert layers with linear color space into my composition/masterdocument (here we use sRGB IEC61966-2.1) the colors looks as same as in the original rendered document.

Now with CS6 the colors are changing. And so I had to merge all layers to background to change the color profil to get the true colors. But this workflow is dissidenting with Adobes non-destructive-workflow because in most cases I will be able to go back to my layer setting and not to get a merged background.

In the meantime I found out an other problem:
When I reopen a document (sRGB IEC61966-2.1) with CS6, maid with CS5 with smart-objects (linear color space) inside the colors look as same as in CS5. But when I'm transforming a smart-object the colors are changing immediately.
I think Adobe has tweaked a lot at the color exchange.

I hope I have explained the problem clearly (my english isn't the best ;) ) and someone has a solution.

best wishes
Robert
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>> I rendered out multipass-pictures with linear color space cause the colors looks better.

That doesn't make much sense.
Cinema 4D is a ray-tracer when doing high quality rendering. It's output has a colorspace, and that is most likely going to have a gamma of 1.0, but might not if Cinema 4D converted to a gamma encoding when writing the file (which is typical when writing anything other than 32 bit float images).

And you don't just change the color interpretation of the files on a whim - they have a certain colorspace defined by Cinema4D, and will only look (and composite!) correct in that colorspace.

CS5 and CS6 don't have any significant difference in color management.
But you don't have "layers with linear colorspace". Those words mean nothing together. Your document may have a gamma of 1.0, but the layers all have the same colorspace as the document.

It sounds like you just have your color settings different in CS5 and CS6.

The smart object colors change because your color settings are different between the versions. Photoshop has to reconvert when you update the smart object, and that is affected by your color preferences.
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Hi Chris,
thanks for answering.

"It sounds like you just have your color settings different in CS5 and CS6.
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Is there a differents between CS5 and CS6 by default? I didn't changed anything. I just installed the software and worked on.

"...But you don't have "layers with linear colorspace". Those words mean nothing together. Your document may have a gamma of 1.0, but the layers all have the same colorspace as the document.
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I know, that layers have the color space of the document. What I meant was when I duplicat layers from one document to an other as I have described above photoshop has interpreted the colors correctly in version CS5 and now in CS6 the colors are changing.

Do you know what color preferences are used by default in CS5?

Robert
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"North American General Purpose 2" is the default for both versions.
I think some locales have different defaults, though.

No, there shouldn't be any difference by default, but I suspect you changed settings in CS5. Just check the settings, and make sure you show the "more options" section as well.
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Strike!!! - now it works fine :D.

I have to select "Europe General Purpose 3" and now it seams that the colors will be interpreted correctly.

Many many thanks to you Chris.

Robert