Lightroom: Simplify/unify photo targeting.

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I think it would be simpler for the user if metadata and develop setting adjustments targeted all selected photos regardless of grid vs loupe vs dev modes, or whether initiated via context menu...

Furthermore, this change would allow plugins to work same as Lr proper (target-wise), which presently they don't and can't and vary from plugin to plugin - see .

This 'Idea' would also go well with the idea of making it clear how many photos will be affected when making adjustments.

Note: there would still be a most-selected photo, since its necessary as source for manual sync and copy/paste...

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In other words, lock auto-sync on?

I'll pass on that.
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There's a lot more to it than that.

Reminder: Its recommended that, along with this suggestion, group handling be enhanced so one can easily define one or more groups of photos (even a temporary quick-edit group, or two), and readily toggle between one photo selected and all photos in a group selected.

"Locking auto-sync on" is more than an oversimplification, its a wrong way to look at it. One of the benefits of this 'Idea' is that 'AutoSync' as a mode would no longer be necessary or desirable. I think this feature would go well with relative adjustments added to the develop tools.
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If Lightroom would have been done this way in the first place, a proposal to change it to the way it is now might seem ludicrous (probably would be).

I've a feeling the way it is now has become so ingrained that the likelihood of it being changed across the board at this point is near to nil.

I do however hope that this idea will at least be considered, and maybe it could be implemented this way as an option, or at least some partial changes will be considered, e.g. as suggested by Jeff Stephenson in a related post (option to have metadata be assigned to all selected photos even in loupe mode), and also for plugins.

I realize that this problem is worse for me than most others because I regularly mix the use of plugins & Lr native for both metadata and develop setting adjustments, and having them work differently adds yet another wrinkle - I have to *constantly* be diligent about targeting/auto-sync. Never touch nuthin' without thinking a good while first about targeting - that's my motto, and remember to lock afterward.

Ever seen that movie with Bob Hope going into a gun dual and trying to remember all the factors regarding the sun and the wind and the characteristics of his opponent... - that's me using Lightroom.

I just don't like having to think:
- What module am I in (I'd like to be able to forget about this entirely by having them integrated).
- What type of adjustment am I making (I'd prefer not to have to make the distinction between a develop adjustment and a metadata adjustment when considering scope of effect - they're both just changing something about the photo(s) to me).
- How am I initiating the action (different when using keyboard vs. context menu...)
- And is this via plugin or Lightroom proper (...)
everytime I adjust something (anything, everything).

PS - I had previously forgotten to mention yet another other case of different photo targeting behavior - secondary grid view.
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ORIGINAL: I was just recently reminded of *yet another* exception in the present targeting scheme: unlike keywords, other metadata in Library grid view only targets most selected photo. I could have sworn all metadata entry affected all selected photos in grid mode in the past, but if it did, then that's changed. In any case, it's yet another difference to keep in mind...

UPDATE: there's the 'Show Metadata For Target Photo Only' setting, which also determines whether "other" metadata entry besides keywords affects all selected or just most selected photo - don't forget...
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Here's an excerpt from the SDK API doc:
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catalog:getTargetPhotos()

Retrieves the photo objects for the photos that would be affected by any photo-processing command.

If there is a selection, this is the list of selected photos. Otherwise, it is the entire list of photos in the filmstrip.
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I *love* the first part of the description, if only it were true...

List of exceptions is scattered about, but perhaps it suffices to say: there are many.