Lightroom Classic: Ability to sync Smart Collections with (Lightroom CC / Mobile / lightroom.adobe.com)

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Collection synching / Lightroom Mobile is a great addition to Lightroom 5.4. Please extend this functionality to Smart Collections as well.
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Geoffrey Roth

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Posted 5 years ago

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Nikolai Langlois

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I'd like to chime in with most of the other posters just how necessary it is to me to have smart collections from my MBP sync up to the cloud and thus to my iPad. I really love to view the images on the iPad, but prefer to store and import them into the laptop. Though ideally if I could import photos directly from my camera into either LR on the laptop or the iPad and have them become accessible on all those devices immediately I'd be so thrilled. C'mon Adobe, Light Room is a great product, I love it, but keep improving it!
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Paul Cleary

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Count my vote for syncing smart collections!
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Simon McCarthy

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Count me in here as well - I'd love to only sync starred photos to my ipad to cut down on the volume of photos kept on there.
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I just added a feature to my Collection Agent plugin which maintains regular collections alongside smart collections which have the same contents but aren't smart. You should be able to Lr-mobile-sync those instead..

Let me know if it helps, or doesn't.. - free:

http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ProductsAn...

Rob
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ryos

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Great idea. I will try this tonight. Thanks for sharing!
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Rob Cole

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Please let me know if there are problems with it or you have suggestions for it.., and let us know if it works well-enough as is.. - thanks.
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Scott

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This works great! Thanks for making it. At least now I don't have to abandon my smart collection based workflow with Mobile Lightroom!
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Thanks Scott! - that's good to hear..

I recently automated it (dumb collections auto-updated when smart collections change), so consider downloading the latest version. If you have any other ideas for improvement, do tell.. (preferably by contacting me outside the forum: http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ContactMe).

Thanks again,
Rob
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Havent tried it yet but Thank you!!! This will be so helpful! Hopefully an official release is added soon but this will allow me to use the mobile app in the meantime :)
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ryos

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I was able to set it up with Rob's help & it works like a charm.
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Daniel Hui

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Hi Rob - sadly it looks like your site is down? Somehow the plugin got wiped out when I upgraded to LR 6, which aggravatingly, still does not have syncing of smart collections (maybe we have to wait until LR 14), but will "keep you in business"...
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I use publish to a set of folders on Hard Drive and then sync those with my iphone. Not as dynamic but works just as well for smart folders as for dumb folders
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link doesn't work :(
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Joshua Smith

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Link's dead.

This is a good reason why adobe should implement this rather than leave it up to the community to find work arounds.

Love you Adobe!
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I've just been trying, and I'm afraid I don't understand how it should work. I suspect it's me, but I can only get it to create another set of smart collections.
Thanks
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In the future, please contact me "directly" (outside the forum) if you have problems with any of my plugins:

http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ContactMe

Anyway, you must not have used the correct function, which should have been:

'Make Dumb Copy of Smart Collections'

I don't see how that function could possibly have created any more smart collections - just regular collections with same contents as their smart counterpart.

Rob
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I've got it working now, and it's excellent. Fills a very obvious gap in Lightroom Mobile.
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Bill Kitchen

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The lack of syncing smart collections is a major gap. As an amateur photographer, smart collections are my primary tool for grouping and viewing photos. Some of these are keyword based, however others are timeframe based and therefore quite dynamic. Lightroom mobile for me is used for two purposes, basic editing / cleaning of photos and viewing / sharing.
Basic correction .... flag photos for keep/deletion, rate and basic correction particularly when travelling. This really only works without smart collection as I have 1 collection which captures device camera roll. SLR jpegs are imported to the device and appear in this collection.Lightroom mobile does an excellent job.
However for viewing ... This a a real chore. After completing final editing / naming, it is then nessary to determine what has changed in smart collections and copying photos to the LR mobile collections.
Whilst I enjoy the functionality, given viewing photos is so important and smart collections are pivotal in providing a 'live' view of collections, I'm really not sure if there is sufficient value to continue my Adobe subscription.
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Bill Kitchen

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There are lots of discussions on the difficulties of recovering mistakes removing photos from Smart Collections. Given LR mobile (currently) only allows changing the flag and rating, why not set up a Smart Collection based on the flag setting and ratings which would exclude photos from your collections ? That way, photos deleted by flagging changed would appear in this other collection and could be fixed.

When LR capabilities are extended to include say managing keywords, it becomes more difficult. However, this might simply require having a 'dumb' smart collection which picks up all photo all all recent photos.
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Lightroom CC 2015 still not be implemented for this must-have feature.
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MerlinDE

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Adobe – we're paying for this software! Can you please finally listen to customer feedback?
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I hear the concerns about recovering from changes made in the mobile versions, if they result in the original no longer being accessible from the mobile device. My primary use case of the mobile clients is to show photos to people, as opposed to edit them. So I would like to have the option from within the mobile app to lock what's being reviewed, so there's no concerns about fat fingering a change. I currently publish folders to my hard drive and sync those to iphone/ipad, which allows me to sync smart folders, but results in the dead copy I like. But having that sync work in the background would be nice, especially given that iOS syncing isn't really that bullet proof.
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Yeah, i just might ask for a refund within that first 30 days because I'm so disappointed it doesn't do this.

What's the point of accessing collections that aren't smart? Wouldn't, for most people, those be pretty well completed collections (ie "landscapes" or "website portfolio") and thus why the need to edit them on your phone?

Meanwhile, a smart collection is usually my work-in-progress stuff. Delayed somewhere? Edited a few newly flagged photos. That would be just brilliant.

Having mobile access to non-smart collections does nothing for me, and now I just feel bullied into subscribing to CC rather than keeping the stand-alone program.
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I just discovered that in the new Lightroom CC, you cannot sync smart collections. That is a feature I would really like. I know it would pose a few challenges to implement but I have faith that the folks at Adobe can do it.
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There is a plugin that allows you to create and sync smart galleries to dum galleries that Lightroom can use.

This link used to provide a Plugin but is down at the moment

http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ProductsAn...
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I just discovered the syncing collection feature with LR 6. I was thrilled as it seemed a great way of offering a preview to clients through the private website link AND have them hot sync their choices to me remotely. The selection process with clients is always a hassle and a way of streamlining it would be seriously helpful to my workflow and business. HOWEVER, I MUST have the option of having my watermark on the images. While I have clients whom I trust not to download and proof and post unedited images, I have many that I don't trust. I would also like a way to pause syncing. There is a serious slowdown as it updates. I'm working on an event shoot now that started with 2500 images and I am noticing as I get closer to the end, the updating process is slow particularly as I delete images from the collection. I am on a very fast computer and internet connection too (Intel 4790k @4+Ghz).

Honestly, I really do not care at this point about LR mobile. Its really not a part of my workflow. Thus, I had never discovered this private web link and hotsyncing functionality. I shared my info in a photographer discussion group and they were unfamiliar with it too. THIS is a VERY important feature for pro photographers. Honestly when I stumbled across it, it was the first thing in LR 6 that excited me. PLEASE add it.
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Your request for watermarking won't be noticed in this topic, which is about syncing smart collections. Add your vote and option to this topic: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
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John Ellis

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To pause syncing in LR 6, click on the identity plate in the upper-left corner and click the pause button.
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Sterling Steves

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Thank you John!!!
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This is an absolute no brainer. I've no idea why Adobe wouldn't allow smart collections to be synced with mobile devices.

I have a smart collection for pics rated 4+ stars and I want that to be synced with my mobile so I always have my best pics with me. To me, this is such an obvious thing to do.

Come on Adobe!!
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think about it: if you had that collection synced automatically, an accidental swipe on the photo to reduce / increase star rating while on mobile, could result in the photo vanishing from the collection entirely without you being able to get it back unless at your computer... that's why this is not a no-brainer...
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The synced collection on mobile could be made read-only -- problem solved.
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Or Adobe could understand that users might *want* the ability to edit collections out and about. The photo is still on the computer, just not in the collection so accidental changes aren't a huge issue. Its very easy to accidentally change ratings on the computer as well - one keypress only, but that is not an argument for not supporting ratings...
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yes, syncing of smart collections to LR mobile is a must feature for me too
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Mario Pereira

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This is a really important feature! I only use smart collections.
Please prioritize this.
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Eric Rivedal

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Agreed! Smart Collections really have to be supported in Lightroom Mobile for it to be useful. Please prioritize quickly!
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I am new to LR and really struggling to understand why the ability to sync smart collections to mobile was not already implemented. It is a bit worrying that this thread started a year ago and since then we have moved to V6 but still no resolution to this issue.

Adobe, please release this functionality urgently. It just makes sense to have it!
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long story short, it would open a loophole where you could basically create a smart collection that pulls files based on flags, for instance. In such case, you could accidentally remove a flag from a photo while away from your computer and it would make it suddenly vanish from the collection. There are a million and one ways to break such a system in all sorts of creative ways, so the problem is not trivial to solve... ;)
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There have been a number of thoughtful comments on this topic but no solid reason why smart albums should not be able to sync with LR Mobile. I am trying to transition from Aperture where I have 60,000+ images and have used smart albums based on flags, ratings, keywords etc for years. This has allowed me to always have a subset of images available on my iPhone and iPad that automatically update as new images are added to my Aperture library and are post-processed. Sure, there may now be some extra steps required due to LR Mobile being able to edit flags and ratings but if a few bright young minds were applied to the challenge I think a great solution would not take long to develop. There are already many ideas offered in this thread as a starting point. Come on Adobe, we are all waiting!
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Agree with Brian here, and disagree with Mike. Aperture has had this feature for years so it is both technically possible and usable for the customer.
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David Rossberg

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Sign me up for smart collections on LR mobile!
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@ Mike Obuchowski

I'm not a software specialist.
Would it be that hard to protect such "accidental deletes" for smart collections specifically?

Or give a warning when you are doing this. This maybe even better then blocking, because maybe you really want to delete something from a smart collection.

I sure do hope that the people of Adobe are considering this, and that they would reply to this topic. That would be a good sign to their customers who are paying good money.
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Good point indeed - and I do hope the good folks at Adobe crack this issue. I think there was a comment from staff at the beginning of this thread.
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I don't see this as challenging at all from a UX experience. You change a flag that which would remove from a collection, the picture grey out but stay on the device. Change it back it ungreys. Add a "commit" button to remove the pictures from the collection.

Now coding this might be harder if the mobile device doesn't know the collection rules, but it couldn't be that hard.
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I really don't see why this such a big issue. Yes you might accidentally lose access to the picture in your collection on your mobile device; but it's hardly the end of the world. It's not like the photo is lost forever. Your not deleting the phot it is just removed from the collection because it no longer meets the criteria.

If it is such a worry you could easily have another smart collection to show photos modified in the last say 2 days. Even if it was un-flagged it would still be in that smart collection and you could re-flag it or add the keyword back in.
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Anything is better than manual approach. No offense to Mike, but I assume most us would rather have the smart collection sync first, then refine UI later. We purchased LR and we bother talking about lack of Smart Sync so you all probably aren't casual smartphone snapper, right?

Right now, we can't access our images via cloud w/o managing sync-ed collection. This is a non-productive workflow. By comparison, a couple of images disappearing from cloud because I messed up a flag = acceptable.

I think having a bigger bucket smart collection like "Imported in last 2 weeks" to catch all, would be a good idea to counter the issue. That way your image may disappear from another smart collection but not from catch-all smart collection. Beyond that, if you need some of your images to be permanently in cloud, creating a static collection for the purpose seems logical...
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none taken - I'm all for having it sync automatically! and also I'm all for having the app sync in the background, too!!
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This is no issue at all. The smart collection online should not know the rules. It should just sync. So even if you remove a star by accident the picture would still be there with the lower rating. It will be removed once Lightroom on the computer starts up, syncs the changes, and deletes the picture with the not matching criteria.

Really just like it is working now, only with smart collections. There is nothing big to code for this.

Well, I am a software developer, but Adobe sometimes is very special...
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actually, this is a very good point. I forgot the syncing works only with desktop Lr switched on!
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Syncing on mobile devices works at any time you have an internet collection - it doesn't need the desktop turned on.
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you mean syncing to mobile and from mobile. I meant syncing new photos from Lr Desktop up to the CC ;)
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Ah! Great
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I'm one of those fortunate ones to have the plugin from robcole.com, see post from about 5 months ago, before it disappeared.
This just syncs the status of selected smart collections whenever Lightroom is running but doesn't reflect changes on the iPad. They become static collections on mobile.
I have a workflow where I start with my imported photos unflagged. I have a collection for that. I can work through them on the iPad and set flags and stars and these all sync when I next run Lightroom. I can then delete the rejected photos in Lightroom, and add keywords and tag the flagged ones with the appropriate colours depending on the stars. I then unflag everything.
It will become more powerful when Adobe supports colour tags and keywords on mobile, but it's already incredibly useful to be able to sync a certain class of photos from a smart collection in Lightroom.
Adobe, please at least give us this. From experience, it's very very useful.
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If you can, Help to upload the plugin in dropbox or google drive and share the link here friend :)