Lightroom: Possibility of adding multiple crop ratios to photos.

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As image composition can change with the crop ratio how about you could add to a list of crops.

In the crop dialog you could select a plus icon and add a ratio of 6x4, set the crop on the image and then maybe add another of 7x5.

Once set these would become available for use on export by selecting the ratio you want and exporting as normal.

More importantly these crops and ratios waould be available for future use without mucking about with virtual copies, keywords and pasting settings.
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Paul Cockerill

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I think Snapshots would give you this today.

Edit your image till done.
Save Snapshot
Apply your 2x3 crop
Save Snapshot
Apply you 5x7 crop
Save Snapshot.

Use as you describe to export.

If you ever decide to reedit an image, update your snapshot (s) with current settings and reapply your crop.

Personally, I have never found it a time saver to save different crops of an image unless I am writing an article about cropping and need to revert.
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I use snapshots for this now, but it's a major hassle and not effective. First problem - they aren't available in the grid or in the export module. You have to touch each and every image to select them. Second problem - updating an image in any way makes you either re-create that change to every snapshot or re-create all the crops from scratch, which is doubly-annoying since changing crop ratio doesn't preserve the center point of the existing crop.

A reasonable way to deal with these issues would save me much time and aggravation.
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I can see this for other workflows but it just doesn't come up in mine that often.

I treat a crop as a part of the develop process: This is the crop that makes my image look best. The final snapshot is then saved to reflect that. Then if I need a derivative that has to be 'shoe-horned' into a different aspect ratio, I crop for that use, export and then revert to the final snapshot-erasing that crop from existence. The need to restore that crop almost never comes up (In my workflow)

For a portrait client, I may save a 5x7, 8x10, 11x14 version of the print that was made but I do that through snapshots and only after all the develop/retouch work is done. I suppose if a client came back and asked for radical edit of a previously meticulously cropped image, I would have this need but it just hasn't come up yet.

I would be very interested in seeing a discussion of workflows where this is considered vital though. As a writer of topics related to cropping, I would love to get some more insight.
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Portraits and weddings is where I use this. If I have an order for 75 images, with three different crops on each (just like you said), managing all this can be a pain. And, I do this after I'm "done" but sometimes after I'm "done" I find a little other way to tweak it to be just a little more "done". However, even if that doesn't happen, exporting all those different crops of different images is a huge nightmare (you have to go into each image in Develop, select each snapshot and export one at a time). In fact, it's so bad that I don't do it anymore - I export them as I create them and just hope that I got the images pretty close to right.
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In an ideal world you would offer prints to clients at the ratio you want and the most logical would be 1:1.5 (6x4, 9x6, 12x8, 15x10, 18x12) but that severly limits the size options plus 12x8, 10x8 & 7x5 even though they mess up the neat workflow are popular.

Yes there are many ways in Lr to do this as there is with almost anything, but I like simple elegant solutions and if when you crop you only had to do it once for each ratio you need and then these were always available no matter how many changes you made to the image that would be perfect.

Lee's right on this, sometimes there's a way to make it a little bit more 'done'.

Even better would be for the export module to allow you to enter strict dimensions in inches and a dpi. If then some of the images didn't have the correct ratio crop stored those ones could be loaded into the filmstrip and when you've completed the crops the export commences.

I haven't put that much thought into it, honest!

On a simialr vain though if this were never to happen it could be made a whole heap simpler to do it yourself if the idea in the thread below were implemented, though I don't really like the idea of lots of virtual copies saved only for crops cluttering up the filmstrip.

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
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I have another usage case for this.

I am an amateur photographer, only editing photos for viewing on miscellaneous electronic devices in our household and printing in 3:2 format.

My camera makes 3:2, and I usually first crop for optimal composition at this ratio, then make other develop adjustments and export to 3:2. Then I go on making a set of 16:9 for the TV (where we view most photos), and then a 4:3 version for iPad.

A lot of times I discover that I could have done something better in my develop adjustments. Making those adjustments to the latest crop version is easy, but I can't reselect the earlier crop versions and export those with the new adjustments.

I would very much like to be able to save the crop coordinates for all crop versions in the photo, and then simply select a preferred crop version in the export dialog.