Lightroom - Panels Aren't Scaled Properly On Retina Display

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Is there a setting that I'm missing that will allow the side panels in Lightroom to scale properly for a retina display? I verified that the font size is set to small under Preferences/Interface.

Just for specifics, on my 1920x1200 non-retina desktop monitors, the LR panels take up significantly less of the display proportionally vs how much they use on my retina 2560x1600 laptop display. This makes the resulting image pane much smaller than it needs to be.

If not, I'll enter this as an idea/enhancement.
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Are we talking about Mac or Windows?
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Mac, but having the same functionality on Windows would be nice as well.
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The 2560x1600 13" retina acts like a much lower resolution screen unless you go into System Preferences > Display > Scaled > More Space, if I remember rightly. There's more information here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5266
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Thank you for that idea. I tried the "More Space" setting. It certainly does make the menus smaller, but it also makes the image smaller, and seems to negatively effect the graphics performance/speed.

I'll provide a little more detail:
With a 2560x1600 image in LR, viewed at 1:1, the image takes up the whole screen at the "Best" (Retina) Display setting. So the screen is running at native resolution - this is the expected behavior.

The issue is with the LR interface/panels, which take up entirely too much space in this mode. As a percentage of the screen, they use way less space on my non-retina 1920x1200 Windows desktop.

Changing the OS display settings may be an acceptable band-aid when I'm working for an extended time in Lightroom, assuming the performance isn't affected significantly. It would be nice to have Lightroom updated to resolve this, though.

I've attached a screenshot of a spreadsheet with detailed measurements to describe what I'm seeing. Hopefully it will make sense to someone :-)

Here's the summary from all those numbers:
1) 1920px wide image uses 42% of the physical space used on desktop screen @ 1:1 when viewed on retina (8.5" on retina vs 20.5" on desktop)

2) LR left/right panels use 70% of the physical space in the same comparison (left: 2.38" on retina vs 3.38" on desktop, right: 2.25" on retina vs 3" on desktop)

3) In the example above, if the panels were proportional to the 1:1 image scaling, the left would be 1.42" wide, right would be 1.26" when displayed on the retina screen
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Here's another data point. I enabled the "Open in Low Resolution" option for Lightroom (per your Apple link above), to see how it would change the behavior. The test image only fits 1280px on the screen at 1:1, but the left/right panels in Lightroom are the exact same width (but have an ugly, upscaled look to them - same as a program that hasn't been updated with Retina support).

This is a perfect example - the panels should take up about half the physical screen space that they're currently using.

It looks like Adobe chose not to make use of the additional screen resolution on the retina screen, aside from the actual image display, which works exactly as it should.
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I've leave someone else to add the techie details, but in short:

When you have it set to 'more space', it's behaving like a 2560x1600 13" screen, but that means the text and everything is tiny.

When you set it to 'best/retina', it's behaving like a much more normal resolution for a 13" screen, and multiple pixels are used to display a single pixel of information, which results in a much sharper appearance.

Lightroom uses fixed minimum panel widths (automatically scaled on retina displays), so it's normal that the image takes up a proportionately smaller area on a 13" screen.

I'm sure one of the engineers will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know it's behaving as expected.

I'll leave it here as an idea though, as I use the same machine and would love some extra image space.
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Thanks Victoria - the "more space" setting would be a great solution, if it didn't knock the Lightroom image display resolution down to 1680x1050 and affect all the other apps.

It looks like I need to submit it as an idea. I think they should offer two settings - one that makes better use of the retina screen for the panels, and one that displays as it does currently.

Is there any way to convert this post/thread from a question to idea? Edit: Looks like this was already done - thanks!
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I have the same problem with a retMBP 15” of a relative of mine. The side panels are to big.
The strange fact is that on my own retMBP 15” the panels have the right , much smaller, size.

We tried to compare the settings but as far as I can see every (relevant) setting is the same! So my question is, what is the relevant setting in order to achieve a normal side panel?

We working both with the latest version af Mavericks.

Ton