Lightroom mobile: I would like to synchronize over LAN instead of internet

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LR mobile sync is extremely slow. Giving me an option to sync locally would be excellent. And I'm sure very useful for professionals travelling in areas where internet is limited/non-existent or expensive and time consuming.

Come on Adobe. If this is designed for professionals this slow sync and data usage issues on global data roaming....? It simply isn't practical. The product as is can't be recommended as is.

(please also add keywords, ratings, labels to app functionality)
Thanks!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Synch without the Cloud.

Synchronization between devices is great but right now the only way to do so seems to be via your cloud service. This is slow compared to via a local network or cable connection and in addition the 20GB cap on the Photography Plan means that I cannot store original RAW files on my ipad and then synch them to my desktop due to this data cap. I typically am off the grid for a week at a time and with 60-75MB RAW files 20GB is reached quickly. While off the grid I cull images and rate them thus the need to synch rather than just copy from my device. For me the current system for synching is a deal breaker as I will not pay Adobe's $10/mnth additional fee to move from 20GB to 1TB when I will not be actually storing images in the cloud and the synching process is so slow. It has meant that I will be abandoning Adobe products for the foreseeable future rather than subscribing to the photography plan. If a more workable solution for synching my originals was in place then I would subscribe.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic: Sync Lightroom Classic to Mobile without subscription via Wifi....

I'd like to see adobe add the ability to view and edit photos across connected platforms either via Wifi or Bluetooth

Most professional photographers or travelers don't have access to the internet (or it's very slow) while traveling so editing locally would be much better.

I'd prefer Lightroom to be able to connect and see photos locally so we can start an edit on Mobile and continue on PC without needing an internet connection. 

To be clear adobe (agents) we don't want a Lightroom cc Plan because we don't have interent connections. 

Look forward from hearing from other users and also Adobe.
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Lightroom mobile does not work over Ethernet for me on a pixel phone or a Chromebook. Every other app on my phone or Chromebook works fine. At least I'd like to sync to creative cloud using my Ethernet connection.
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You know why they won't implement any practical solution ? Because they want you to hit the 20Go ceiling and purchase a bigger storage plan. That’s why they won’t make it easy to bypass the online solution...
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Exactly, it’s entirely a money grab but it’s short sighted. For many of us requiring the snyching of originals via the cloud cripples their software. For me it’s a deal breaker so rather than getting more $ from me for more storage they aren’t getting a dime because I won’t subscribe to any of their plans unless this roadblock is removed.
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Interestingly, I thought that the 20GB limit would work differently than it does when integrating with Classic CC. I decided to try syncing a my entire catalog with the cloud, just to see how quickly it ran out of space, and made an interesting discovery: Smart Previews don't count against the 20GB cap. Since they also sync relatively quickly, this actually makes Lightroom usable as an edit-and-view-anywhere service for pros using Classic CC. I have a 50k+ image catalog synced with the cloud, and I'm using less than 1GB of my 20GB of space.

There are still some things I wish worked differently: I still would like LAN sync, nested folders in collections carrying over to Lightroom CC would be most welcome, and keyword handling still has issues. Overall, though, I'm getting happier with the service and how it integrates with my workflow and needs.
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I was actually wondering whether it has to do with Sensei.
Anyway, collaborating with one of the major NAS brands (QNAP, Synology) could solve many problems in one go: faster sync speed, decent catalogue backups, privacy of images, access to the catalogue from various devices (desktop, laptop, tablet, smart tv, Webbrowser), storage capacity,...
Why is Adobe ignoring these benefits? Even if Sensei was one of the reasons why Adobe is pushing towards the cloud, they could synchronize relevant metadata between the NAS and Adobe Cloud.
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This seems likely, but it still seems like they're forcing pros to use (what they hope will be) their consumer service (not unlike Apple, but at least Adobe still has their pro DAM/processing app). No matter how good Sensei gets, it's not going to meet most pros' needs (great, you identified that shot as a bird, but I want to categorize by what kind of bird), and the volume of shots a pro can generate over a short period of time and then have to wait to bounce to Adobe's servers and then back down to tablet/phone, far outstrips most casual photographers.

Even with the discovery that Smart Previews don't count against the 20GB quota doesn't eliminate the irritation of being forced into a slower workflow because Adobe has some fantasy that they're going to compete with Apple and Google for the masses' photo processing and cloud storage needs. It's not going to happen, and forcing your best, most loyal customers to jump through suboptimal hoops while you chase the impossible dream doesn't really do anybody any good.
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Right, and smart previews particularly don’t help if I want to load images on my iPad first (while travelling) and then continue working on my desktop afterwards, since I am forced to sync all my 30mb raw files over the cloud.
I completely agree with what you are saying while trying to understand why Adobe is prohibiting modern mobile workflows (which in my opinion should allow backups and culling without a laptop).
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For a "mobile-first" workflow while traveling, they really have no good answer at this point if you don't want to upgrade to 1TB of storage (and give them another $10/mo). The best you can do if you want to do some editing while on the road is keep Lightroom from syncing, then let it sync overnight after you get back and move the synced files from the Mobile folder to your normal folder hierarchy. This only works if you take less than 20GB of photos while traveling, though (or cull and delete to keep under that number) - for short trips, that should be fine, but for longer trips, it may not be workable.

Again, this wouldn't be necessary if they weren't forcing pros to piggyback on a consumer service for very little discernible reason, beyond "it's easier for Adobe".
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Well said. This sums things up perfectly.
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Smart previeuws don't count in the quota? I'll have to check this out!! :)
Actually, I'd be fine to sync 20 Go at a time. It's fine to have a higer pricetag for the 1To storage, which I don't need. The only thing I'm missing is something to tell me which pictures has already been synced (and I delete or move to smart previews syncs).
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Hi All,

I think I've found a bit of a workaround for Mac/iPhone, although it's not a perfect solution.

* Plug your iPhone into iTunes.
* Go to File Sharing.
* Click on Lightroom CC Mobile (MLCC).
* Copy the catalogue file onto your desktop (581964c.. etc).

* Open Lightroom CC on your Desktop (DLCC).
* Open DLCC preferences, then click local storage.
* Make sure "store a copy of all originals at specifies location" is selected.
* Then choose a location for the originals to be stored, in my case, I have this folder stored on my RAID.
* Click done and navigate to this folder.
* Inside it, you'll see the same file structure as the MLCC folder that you just saved to your desktop.
* Copy the contents of the 'Originals' folder from the MLCC folder and paste it into the 'Originals' folder that you created for DLCC.
* Now import this DLCC originals folder into Lightroom Classic CC, making sure not to apply any presets on import.
* Lightroom Classic CC will now only download the adjustments from the Adobe cloud and save them as 'virtual copies'.

It's not a perfect solution but, in a pinch, it should save you some time..

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I tried this and it didn't work for me. The files in the MLCC "Originals" folder download from iTunes have a long string of letters and digits added to the file names. When I add those files to DLCC they are synced to the Cloud as new files since the file names don't match the original file names.

As a result, I wind up with two copies of the images:

1) The original photos taken by the MLCC app, and
2) the photos with the extra letters/digits in their file name.

I'm using Mobile version 4.0 and LR CC 2019. It's possible that something changed in these newer versions to stop the workaround from functioning correctly.
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+1 for WLAN sync. Would love to be able to sync iPad to MacBook when I’m off grid.
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Actually, I am on vacation and have found a very simple workflow for using my iPad and LR CC Mobile with no internet access. I upload my photos to my iPad using the SD card reader to Camera Roll. I work on the photos in LR CC Mobile, PS Express, Snapseed, etc. and save them back to Camera Roll. I then back up using a WD Passport wireless drive. I check to make sure I have all photos on the drive using the My Cloud App and then copy all my RAW shots to the Passport which has an SD card slot. I format my card and I am good to go for the next day. Short, sweet and simple and no internet needed.
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But can you copy the raw files with all the edits? Or only the finished JPGs?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled We need to be able to transfer our edited photos from an iPad to a desktop via a ....

This is getting out of hand. Almost every photographer I know would rather edit on the road with an iPad. Especially since it LR mobile runs significantly faster than classic on a desktop. But transferring all of our edited files back to our desktop at home via wifi is absurd. Especially as MP count goes up on cameras. I shot 200 photos today, and it has taken 5 hours to upload half of them to the adobe server to transfer to classic. And I have the fastest internet speed my provider has available. This is so stupid. The iPad is sitting in front of the computer and I can't simply connect them so my time is wasted. FIX THIS ADOBE!!!!!
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Another vote for what is nothing more than a PITA