Lightroom mobile: I would like to synchronize over LAN instead of internet

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LR mobile sync is extremely slow. Giving me an option to sync locally would be excellent. And I'm sure very useful for professionals travelling in areas where internet is limited/non-existent or expensive and time consuming.

Come on Adobe. If this is designed for professionals this slow sync and data usage issues on global data roaming....? It simply isn't practical. The product as is can't be recommended as is.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom mobile: Ability to use wifi LAN syncing capability between Desktop and ....

Syncing a collection with 1000+ images for offline editing on mobile Lightroom is really painful. It will be absolutely fantastic if we can do it directly over wireless LAN. Really time-saving!

We do not always need to sync to the creative cloud all the times.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I would like to synchronise with Lightroom mobile over LAN instead of internet..

Synchronizing with Lightroom Mobile can take several hours to sync and internet connectivity is not always available. When I work at remote locations, I want to work on my photos on the plane while flying home... I believe this is the whole idea of Lightroom Mobile - but this is impossible without internet connectivity. Synching over a LAN or USB connection makes sense.

I have now waited over 5 hours for a catalogue to sync and it is at 70%!!! I could edit, sort and finalise everything on my laptop by the time the sync is done!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Mobile - Sync via LAN wifi instead of internet.

I would like to have the option to sync Lightroom Mobile (on the iPad) with my computer via LAN wifi (when devices are connected on the same network).. rather than having to sync via the internet and back which is much slower. My internet isn't very fast and I dont see the point in having to rely on this as a transfer process for photos between my computer and iPad.
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Latest update of Lightroom Mobile with Raw support is great but not being able to sync directly using the LAN wifi, without having to upload to the cloud, handicaps the mobile app for many users including myself. Lightroom Mobile is a free app but this is a feature that I would actually pay for. Right now this is the one thing that will keep me from using Lightroom Mobile in any major way. Would love to use my iPad for more of my image workflow but I don't want to use up internet bandwidth multiple times just to get images from an iPad to the desktop.
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I think Lightroom Mobile is a waste of time and effort in general. Adobe built in the option for syncing your main catalog but the real aim is actually just to edit photos taken on your mobile device. It is much faster to just copy a catalog over to a laptop, edit and copy the catalog back.
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Lack of LAN or direct synching is a problem. Just yesterday Adobe's servers   w e    r     e    r  un ni  ng s oo  ooooo  sl ooo ww  ly. Hideous.


Meanwhile, get Mylio. It does LAN synching and works with RAW, Lr and gives you more control. Maybe Adobe should buy them for their obviously superior tech.
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I take a LOT of pictures doing wildlife photography and many of the initial captures are garbage. I would love to sit on the couch and cull the images on my iPad in LR Mobile, however it is not currently practical. Syncing back to my main collection is very time consuming via the internet and uses a ton of my internet bandwidth allowance very quickly. The ability to sync using my own wifi network or even bluetooth would be a game changer for me.

We got RAW. That was half the battle. (Thanks for that!) Now on to a fast, easy way to get the culled/edited pictures into my main collection. 
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Greg, I am curious.
I have Windows-10 with a home WiFi network. My iPhone-5 can connect to the WiFi and sync my Lightroom 'mobile' collections. I do not use mobile data on the iPhone (very 'old school')
You may just need to investigate the setup for your iPad WiFi.
Mine is syncing as I type.
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It still uses internet... WiFi is just the means to which your devices connects to the internet. The size and quantity of the photos also plays a role. When you sync it goes to the Adobe Cloud and from there syncs to your phone or iPad. No internet... no syncing. The speed of the internet connection will also play a huge role.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Local Sync with cable or local wifi.

Forgive me if this subject has already been discussed, but it really is about time Adobe introduced local sync via cable / wifi for Lightroom CC. As a developer and DBA I cannot accept the excuses Adobe have already given for refusing to add local sync, especially given how large smart preview files can be. Even worse, is the lack of sync of smart albums and folders. I work as a DBA and as a developer and (I'm sorry Adobe developers) these facilities are very easy to add, and should be added as soon as possible. Adobe developers, you have no valid reason to not add support for local sync and sync of smart collections and folders.

Relying on CC sync is too problematic and far to slow to make Lightroom Mobile a serious part of any reasonable workflow.

Come on Adobe developers - pull your socks up and do the job properly
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The internet might be ok if you're working at home or in your office, and you live/work in an area where there is reliable, fast broadband.  

When travelling - in hotels or guest houses or cruise ship - it's just not feasible to even remotely assume that a suitably fast and reliable internet connection will be available.  And don't forget there is the rest of the world might not have the coverage of broadband we're used to in our homes.
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I'd be OK with bluetooth as well. Or frankly, even via cabled USB sync? There just needs to be a way to avoid everything going up to the cloud via the net, then down to the device, then back up, then back down for the exact reason you mention.

I use Lightroom as much to cull bad photos as to edit them (wildlife; you take a lot of shots!)  and had hoped to sit on the couch with my iPad and flag photos for deletion after zooming in, etc. Currently, this is just too slow a process to be possible.
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I'll add my voice to the chorus on this. I took almost 4000 photos on a recent vacation, only took my iPad mini and iPhone with me to back up my cards each night. It would have been great to go directly from what I already had stored on my iPhone to desktop Lightroom when I got home, but having to pass all that data up to Creative Cloud then back down to my desktop would have been ridiculous, so I just downloaded the cards directly to my desktop instead - there was no point in actually working on the photos in LR mobile while on the trip.

At this point, Lightroom for mobile is a decent product that is getting better, but is severely hampered by Adobe's (seeming) desire to use it as a wedge to drive people to Creative Cloud for syncing. It may be easier to sync via CC for the developers at Adobe, but it's a workflow nightmare for users. Local sync over wifi (or even USB) is the only practical solution, so if Adobe wants to continue to require a CC membership to sync, it needs to build code into LR CC to handle local sync.
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Another vote from me for LAN sync from Lightroom Desktop to Lightroom Mobile. Even on a dedicated 100Mbps finds line (100down and up) it never maxes out my connection and syncing a few thousand images from latest shoot takes hours.

LAN sync will greatly increase the number of people who will end up using Lightroom Mobile.

If the developers are looking for how best to implement it, take a look at Dropbox. They have an option to enable LAN sync and then whilst a slow sync is continuing to the cloud in the background all local devices are sync'd super fast over gigiabit Ethernet or wifi.
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Agree completely. Wifi much too slow to be useful for larger raw files
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Since Lr mobile now is able to work with RAW files it should allow local sync using Wifi or cable connection via a local network. RAW files typically have a large size which makes it practically impossible to sync hundreds of images via the cloud. RAW editing doesn't make sense without local sync possibility. And it should be possible to stop syncing if I wish to do so.
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I woukd like to add my request that LAN syncing is implemented ASAP. However since I know that the only reason for not having already done so is strategic and not technical, I'm not holding my breath! As others here have pointed out it is shortsighted for Adobe to "force" users to syncing via CC. One can only assume that the sucess of their regrettable move to a SAS business model for their software delivery has blinded them to the advantages of listening to their userbase. I do hope I'm wrong about this and that LAN syncing is just around the corner......Until then LR mobile will rest on a virtual shelf for me. Shame as I think the product is pretty slick
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Adobe are already work on that? When the LAN sync will be released? That's the only question remains.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why can't you realize Lightroom mobile needs wired connectivity?.

There are many of us begging to allow use of iPads for mobile workflow devices, but until you allow wired transfer back to desktops it is unrealistic.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Sync improvements: selective sync, pause sync, sync ove cable or lan wifi.

Echoing what other have said about sync pausing and syncing over lan wifi or cable, but more importantly, SELECTIVE SYNC please! 

I do not need every photo that I sync to my iPad also on my iPhone - look at how Dropbox works with selective sync, it is perfect. 

the need for pausing sync or doing it locally shows how people are using LRM - away from fast internet speeds, originating photo collections on the go in LRM rather than the desktop version. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Local sync.

I'm a tour guide and travel photographer and I love being able to work with my pictures on the go and to take advantage of the many opportunities that Lightroom mobile gives me... however, I do also use the desktop version of Lightroom... and there I have a big problem on the go...
I live and work mostly in South America and when I'm on the go I can't always count on internet (or will only have a poor internet access at hotels and other points)... so for me it would be crucial to be able to sync my images (and changes) without having to rely on a wifi connection - ideally I'd like to be able to connect my ipad with my macbook pro and have them sync over cable.
I know it sounds old fashioned... but it would be the best way for me and I believe (reading up a bit on the internet) for many others more...
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Since we've been ignored so long, and for those of us who are using the increasingly powerful Lr Mobile on similarly powerful devices, how 'bout SOME way of synching, even if not a LAN, locally? so we can use Lr Mobile when we're, um, mobile? My camera can sync via a direct connection; why not Lr Mobile?
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Toute cette discussion et tous ces reproches face à votre solution sont pertinents....
Actuellement un iPad ne peut servir qu'à présenter quelques photos à un client en dehors de chez-sois dans tous les cas, ça n'est pas une solution valable pour un travail de shooting sérieux.
Et ce maudit pseudo-catalogue sur le Cloud, c'est nul, excusez-moi, mais je devrait vous demander de me rembourser l'iPad que j'ai acheter spécialement pour voyager et qui est inutilisable.... Vos évangélistes et autres publicités sont des mensonges  et de la poudre aux yeux !

All this discussion and all these complaints in the face of your solution are relevant....
 Currently an iPad can be used to present some pictures to a customer outside of home - be in all cases, it is not a valid solution for a serious shooting work.
 And this cursed pseudo-collection in the Cloud, it's lame, excuse me, but I should ask you to pay back me the iPad I buy especially for travel and which is unusable....  Your evangelists and other ads are lies
 
 and the powder in the eyes!
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I agree with you Greg & co. I regularly travel iPad-only, so it's important for me too, and I voted on the request at release. I'm sure it will come in due course.

I just wanted to check whether it was specifically the lack of LAN sync that Yves felt made it "unusable" or something else. LRM has only ever been cloud-sync (and advertised as such), so I'm wondering why he feels that he's been lied to. Perhaps there's a web page that needs clarifying?

There's no question it's a very valid feature request that would have significant benefits to many users. Not a simple task, however.
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From someone who doesn't code myself why is this not a simple task? Compared to say writing code for it to cloud sync ? My gut feeling is that with local sync people may be able to bypass the subscription payment potentially? But if we are forced to cloud sync adobe ensures more people pay?
I'm not against paying I just want to sync locally fast.
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There are just lots of scenarios that need to be considered, and they need to make sure the cloud sync is rock solid before adding a bunch of additional variables.

For example, with cloud sync, it only needs to sync the data you actually need to view, whereas LAN sync would need to sync everything you might possibly need, because it couldn't go back and get them later. That has space repercussions on mobile devices. 

Then, if you can do LAN sync, what happens if you have multiple users all trying to work on the same photos at the same time, creating a bunch of conflicts? With a cloud as the center of the universe, everything links back into that, whereas LAN sync would then want to move into multi-desktop sync, so how do you decide which is the master, and on it goes...
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Proposition :
Si iPad, iPhone etc... connecté via USB, Lan vers l'ordinateur, Transfert des RAWs via ce canal, et ensuite synchronisation vers Cloud en différé comme ça ce passe pour les synchronisation Dropbox entre 2 ordinateurs sur le même LAN.

Proposal:
So iPad, iPhone etc. .  connected via USB, Lan to your computer, transfer of the RAWs via this channel, and then sync to Cloud back like that this passes for Dropbox synchronization between 2 computers on the same LAN.
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> like that this passes for Dropbox synchronization between 2 computers on the same LAN. 

I agree, a Dropbox style sync is the most obvious solution.
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I spoke in a forum with someone on the LR mobile team last year and he said they had no intention of a wired connection as wires were a thing if the past. Hopefully we can change their mind.
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I don't want a physical cable/USB connection I just want to be able to sync over my Local Area Network (LAN) which, in most cases, would be ethernet from desktop to router and then fast 802.1ac wifi from router to iPad Pro.
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My main question regarding this is how would you avoid conflict?

If all photos eventually go to the Cloud, would they just not download to Lr Desktop if they have previously LAN synced?

Adobe aren't going to make Lr Mobile LAN Sync only, so would it just require a LAN only button or just some really clever coding?

It's so obviously a requirement, I am just wondering how it is to be implemented considering the LrM/W are less complex than how users may arrange their folders in LrD?
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Hi Selondon. What I think scoopz is asking for is exactly what Dropbox already delivers -- sync over the local network if possible, otherwise sync to a server in the cloud. This works without any problems on Dropbox.

But, as is obvious, Adobe's bread and butter is photos and graphics, while Dropbox is pure synching, so it wouldn't be surprising if Adobe isn't able to come up with such a seamless solution.
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I wish to add my voice (and vote) to those who wish to sync Lightroom Mobile with Lightroom desktop without needing the cloud. When travelling I wish to import my photos to my laptop and back them up to an external drive. Now I have my original SD cards, the laptop and the external drive all with copies of my photos. At this point I'm properly backed up while travelling.

Then I wish to do preliminary entry of location data (while I still remember) and some basic metadata entry. Maybe a little work that can only be done on the desktop version such as Match Total Exposures, adding labels (I label all my panoramas and HDR shots for later processing) and some presets. After that, I want to sync everything to my iPad and work from there. It's especially excellent for rating photos as well as some light work in the develop module. I don't want to be hunched over a laptop while on vacation and it's no fun at all on long flights where the person in front reclines their chair back and crunches the screen.

The above works reasonably well if I'm travelling where there is good internet access. However, most of my travels are where there is no internet (mostly) or else where the internet is so poor that even accessing text only emails is a frustrating experience. Also, I don't want to have to purchase expensive data plans when travelling abroad just to be able to perform this sync.

I don't care whether a cable is required, or bluetooth, or a wifi connection between the two devices. Just make it happen!