Lightroom image more saturated than Photoshop

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I just noticed that a JPG I imported into Lightroom 4.3 (PC 64bit) looks more saturated than the same image in Photoshop CS6, ACR, Windows viewer, or any other image viewing software I have. The JPG has a sRGB profile. I have made no changes in Lightroom and did not apply any develop settings during import. I restored the Adobe default settings in the Dev module, just in case they had been over-ridden and re-imported. Any suggestions as to what could be causing Lightroom to display different, more saturated colours?

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I would say your monitor profile is suspect, then. LR and PS don't always get along the same with a monitor profile that has issues. LR likes ICC 2, and usually not one that comes with a monitor from the manufacturer. Try setting your display profile to sRGB and see if the discrepancy clears up.

Have you calibrated your display with a hardware calibration system, EyeOne, ColorMunki, etc? If so what version of color profile.

Also, what RGB workspace are you using in Photoshop?
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Your monitor profile is suspect, then.

Do you use any calibration hardware like a ColorMunki or Eye One, etc?

LR has issues with ICC v4 profiles and sometimes with manufacturer-supplied monitor profiles. Try setting your monitor profile to sRGB and see if the discrepancy clears up.

Do you have a link to the original of the image you're using for comparison?
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Thanks Steve. I think that must be it. I just recalibrated my monitor with an eye-one. I was having problems getting a printer (3880) match for colour which lead me to this image. I finally figured out LR was displaying differently. The Photoshop rendition matches the print very closely.

Setting my monitor (Dell U3011) profile to sRGB did not help. In the Dell monitor menu, changing the preset mode from Adobe RGB to sRGB helps, but is still more saturated.

I'm checking on the color profile version created. The photoshop workspace is sRGB, Dot grain 20%, CMTK is US web coated (swop) v2.

Link to image: http://roryhill.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v...
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The profiles I am creating are version 2.4, color space RGB. Maybe the problem is that the eye-one display 2 colorimeter is older and not designed to calibrate a wide gamut monitor??? However, the calibration works fine with anything other than Lightroom.
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I am not using a wide-gamut monitor, nor is the monitor I'm using calibrated with anything other than Windows simple-minded calibration so it's close to sRGB.

I am not seeing wide discrepancy between the two images eyeballing them in LR and PS, but there aren't any solid colors to eyedropper to test analytically since it is a JPG not a TIF and the main colors are a gradient not solid patches.

Can you repost your side-by-side after ASSIGNING your display profile to it in PS and embedding that profile in the image, since that is what a screen-capture should have.

What I am seeing for the woman's skin is in between the dullness of your PS and the brightness of your LR, but since your screen-capture doesn't have a monitor profile assigned, what I see will be different than what you see. I'd like to eyeball which of your side-by-sides compares to what I see in both PS and LR.

I have seen ICC v4 doesn't work with LR and that ICC v2 should, but I'm not sure about ICC V2.4 if that's what you mean by the version of your display profile, as opposed to some version of EyeOne profile hardware or software.

It is possible that the EyeOne can't detect the wide gamut of your display colors and is making a clipped profile that isn't valid for LR.

Are you using a LUT-loader to install the profile or are you using Windows 7/8 system display profile install procedures? It is possible that the version of your software doesn't know how to install a Windows profile on a new OS version.
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I am seeing the same behavior, now that I am aware of the issue, on all my images. I just compared a D800E NEF in ACR and Lightroom and they are quite different. I am using the Eye-One Match 3 software to create the profile. I have been assigning the profiles using the windows 7 color management in the control panel.

I have a second Dell monitor (3007WFP), an older monitor that has been calibrated with the same OneEye and software, and Lightroom is the same as ACR on it, so the issue is the new, wide gamut monitor.
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I wish I could tell you if an up-to-date version of EyeOne would fix things or not.

Here is an article from a year ago that raves about the i1Display Pro hardware although they like to use it with other software:
http://www.gamutprints.com/2011/12/i1...

It seems that somehow LR is not responding properly to your display profile, or that everything else, isn't.

There is also the variable of your video card and video drivers in case something LR is doing, there, is not working, but would work better with others.

Finally, here is an Adobe-forum thread from a year ago where it is suggested that Photoshop needs to be used in OpenGL Basic mode, otherwise it might mess up the color profile on a wide-gamut monitor. In case your PS is what is off, along with a few other applications, you might try doing that:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4178003
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Thanks for everything Steve. I did check that my video driver was up-to-date. I'll post back after I do some research.
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I have everything sorted out I hope. The problem appears to be that in the windows color management "use windows display calibration" was enabled. I disabled this with no effect. I then rebooted the computer and still no change. I dragged Lightroom and Photoshop onto my second monitor and then dragged them back onto the Dell U3011. Photoshop, which had always looked fine, suddenly exhibited the oversaturated colors for a couple of seconds, and then corrected itself. When i dragged Lightroom back onto the U3011 it did the same thing.

Now both photoshop and lightroom look the same - fingers crossed. Many thanks for your help Steve.