Lightroom: Ability to adjust the font size options for UI

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In Lightroom, I would like to have the ability to change font size
The left folder tree explorer panel in library view has large font, which doesnt help when trying to read the names of the folders that get the "..." treatment due to descriptive folder names that are a bit longer.
Surely an option in prefs for this couldnt hurt.
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Here you go:

http://regex.info/Lightroom/Config/

Pick a narrow font. I have.
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Thank you, however I am not looking for a hack.
I'm interested in Adobe building in this kind of customization in the shipping version.

The fact that people are working around the design Adobe uses means that clearly there is room for improvement.
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"Thank you, however I am not looking for a hack."

Realize this is a very, very powerful tool that's quite easy to use and allows you to expand the panel size, change the names of things in the panels and change the fonts. I had the exact same problem as you and this completely solved it for me, just by placing a text file into the Resources/en folder of the install. After I set up that text file, I've never had to change it again.

It would be nice if Adobe gets around to doing this someday, but that day could be a long time off, if ever. Why suffer with the limitations of the current UI when there's just no need whatsoever? Jeffrey is really, really good and has written many excellent LR plugins as well. While it's not unfair to call this a "hack", it's a really safe, really well-executed hack that works as-advertised on every machine I've tried.

I've set my font to MyriadWebPro-Condensed and my max panel size up from 450 to 800 pixels. There's no tree I have that won't fit in that space now.
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Believe me, I hack and adjust where I need to, and maybe I will use this,

however it's more so a complaint about poor design from the root. Something well designed shouldnt have to be changed or added to. It should just work. This conversation is to help convince adobe that they need to change how their software works.
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"however it's more so a complaint about poor design from the root. Something well designed shouldnt have to be changed or added to. It should just work. This conversation is to help convince adobe that they need to change how their software works. "

I'm with you there. The fact that it's easy to import a tree that you can't see, and there's no horizontal scroll bar, and the panel width limit is arbitrary and unneeded indicates to me that you are correct.
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James,

I strongly recommend using jf's configurator - your problem will be solved in just a few minutes.

Its not a hack at all. The TranslatedStrings.txt file is *the* way to do it. Even if Adobe designed a UI for it, all it would do (probably) is write the TranslatedStrings.txt file, which is exactly what jf's configurator does.

The hardest part is figuring out which directory to put the file in, and that's not that hard ;-}

Rob
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There is some font size control in the Preferences (Interface > Panels > Font Size) already, but this is limited to simply "Large" and "Small (Default)". The Small size is a 12 point font, which is pretty small, half this size and it would be nearly impossible for most people to read. Even at 9 or 10 is would still be difficult. At 12 it is about as small as you can get and still be comfortable.

You can change the width of the panels (up to about 20% of your screen width) to give a little bit more room for folder names to display.

Also, you monitor resolution and DPI settings could have an effect on this. The higher your DPI, the larger your text (because the text is based off point size). You may want to try reducing this if it is over 100%.
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I am using the small size
It is not small enough. 10 would be preferable.
Having the option to choose which specific font size would be even better.

when you have folders inside folders inside folders, or long folder names everything gets cut out. And it isn't possible to scroll too the side to see the names.
(a right click does the trick as it displays the full name. I like that but it makes finding what folder to click on difficult.

Im not sure what you mean by monitor resolution...

I have a pro grade NEC 26"
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Monitor resolution is the size and number of pixels on you screen. Like 1024x768 or 1920x1200, at 96 DPI or 120 DPI. These settings are found in your Display Properties on Windows, or Display on Mac.
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.... Oh? you mean that.
Of course.

I thought you were referring to some inner lightroom pref.

My native res is 1920x1200, it is of course entirely not preferable to change from the native resolution of a quality LCD monitor.
And what about larger monitors? 30" ones with 2600x resolutions.
Photos could always be larger, but that doesnt mean screen text and user interface needs to scale up in size as well.

This needs to be accounted for.
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Pixels Per Inch - 89@ native resolution
http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop-m...
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I'm sorry, however I dont see how this is reduceable either, nor do I see why I would want to.
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Is that what the OS is set to use?
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I'm running OSX 10.7.1.
Not Windows. There is (to my knowledge) no means to adjusting screen dpi.

Furthermore, I still think it's something that should be added as user adjustable from within lightroom to conform to the needs and gear that the user of the software has.

Apple's Mail.app has an extensive font adjustment setting list for fonts and sizes as they appear throughout the whole of the application. A model such as that would be preferable for the professional user that requires greater control of the software.
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I'm not dissing your suggestion. I'm just trying to let you know what we do currently offer.

Such a comprehensive adjustment of fonts is not very common in applications. These kinds of options are more expected in applications whose entire purpose is the display text. Not so common in imaging applications.
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True,
However I think as many pros would agree, file management is very important.
each job gets the same structure.

a Folder.
2011.09.14 - Job Description

However, sometimes you need sub genres:
for instance, for repeat clients with a lot of work, I put them into their own folder.

So the file path looks like this:
Photography/Professional/2011/ClientName/2011.09.14 - Job Description

as that path pushes the tree to expand a bit. the file names end up being cut out.
I realize this isnt a mail or text program but organization is critical to professional work.

Please see a screenshot.
I'm not really sure what the solution is but font sizes just a couple points smaller in the navigator would fix most of this issue for me.
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>I'm not really sure what the solution is...

I am. Pick a narrower font and/or a wider panel:

http://regex.info/Lightroom/Config

Also consider changing "Photography" to "Photos", and "Professional" to "Pro".
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Note: If using jf's configurator, be aware that the configured resources are not transferred to new Lightroom installations. They are preserved, but must be transferred manually (copy TranslatedStrings.txt file).
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I would like to see larger fonts used in the main Lightroom windows. I currently use Windows 7 and font DPI scaling to increase the size of screen fonts in most applications.

The drop-down menu fonts are fine in the large size. However, the fonts in the main active areas of Lightroom and the pop-up and settings fonts are all tiny on my large LCD screen.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Larger font size.
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I've just bought a laptop with a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080, and Windows 7, were I intend to use my Lightroom 4 and Adobe Web Premium CS5.5. I thought a big screen resolution would benefit working with Adobe's photo and design software. But no.
Lightroom dialog box text is so small it isn't readable without a magnifying glass. PhotoShop is even worse as the menus are very small as well.
I already lowered the resolution to 1680 x 1050 and chose Larger (150%) font size in Windows, in PS and LR. That helps me in most programs, but not in Adobe's. Very frustrating.
One would expect maximal picture resolution to go hand in hand with perfectly readable text.
Can Adobe quickly do something about that?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Screen text too small on large resolution screens.
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A note about using Jeffrey's configurator for font scaling...

Unfortunately Lightroom does not scale UI element sizes along with font size. So, you may choose a large font folders/collections, but spacing between adjacent folders will be as small as for the default small font.



15 pt is good for a 140-ish dpi display, while it takes 20 pt for a MacBook "retina" display.

It makes it usable, but certainly looks ugly at 20 pt.
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I have an NEC PA301w monitor (30", 2560x1600) and run windows7.
All dialog boxes are really painful to read - the font is just way too small (even with, umm, "Large" fonts selected).

I tried Jeffrey's config generator, no luck.

Any other suggestions?
[I can change the font size of some things, like the menus, via the control panel, but nothing I do has had any effect on the font sizes in the dialog boxes, e.g., Edit/Preferences.]

:-(
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Why are you using gray on black fonts, and why are they so small. I'm not blind, and don't need glasses for other reading but I was virtually on top of my 20 inch monitor and still had difficulty reading anything, much less able to learn and perform what I want to. I am so glad I downloaded the trial version as I would never purchase something to difficult to use because of contrast and size of the fonts.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Why are the fonts selected so small and with very little contrast.?.
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With all the options available, it's still not possible to change the font size of the grid "extras". Lightroom should follow the font size set in the operating system, everywhere.