Lightroom Color Adjustment

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I am frustrated with Lightroom's ability to adjust color. There are many times I cannot get the color where I want it with only color temp and tint sliders. I end up exporting the file and adjusting the color in Photoshop with the Red/Cyan Magenta/Green and Blue/Yellow sliders and then I can get the color I want. 1. When can we get these sliders in Lightroom and 2. Am I doing something wrong
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What sort of color problems are you dealing with? Is it white-balance, or some artistic color munging? Maybe a screenshot of an example image would explain easier.
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Most of the time I cannot get the Red out of the image until I take it into Photoshop where I have 6 different colors to choose from instead of the 4 you have in Lightroom. Attached image. Top photo is as close as I could get it in Lightroom, bottom photo is adjust in Photoshop where I took out red by adding cyan and then adding a touch of yellow and removing some blue.
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Can you post the original raw via something like www.dropbox.com?
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Not sure what you are actually looking for:

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Thanks James but to me this is just way to red. The point is more that Lightroom needs other adjustments not how to edit the file.
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Have you discovered the HSL sliders? - there are 8 colors there.

Also, there are adjustments in camera calibration section.

And of course there's the RGB curves and Split toning.

*** Important: make sure you have a pleasing camera calibration profile selected, and if none are pleasing, you may need to come up with your own camera calibration profile using DNG Profile Editor or xRite software.

You can also adjust temp/tint and colorize locally.

Along with global white balance, I think those are your only options in Lightroom, unless I missed something..

Cheers,
Rob
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Where exactly are you getting RGB curves in Lightroom?
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Oh I see you have to click that little box down on the bottom right to get it to change to RGB. Thanks I'll keep working on it.
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I still think you have a calibration issue...
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I created a new file at the bottom. I personally think it looks good and I appreciate your comments.
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This is how I'd correct it...

Are you using a calibrated screen? I'm on a 27" Samsung Series 9 with internal calibration and i1 pro. To me, your output looks green and washed out.
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It's not so much how you or I or anyone else would edit the file but that Lightroom needs easier controls for color like Photoshop.

I like your edit but the color still looks red to me.
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Right which is why I think your setup is miscalibrated or not calibrated. Is it?
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And, the HSL in LR is immensely more powerful than anything PS has.
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I went back and looked and yours and my edits on another screen and to be honest I dont like either of them on that one. I believe I'll double check my calibration. :)
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I do like that...
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I'm still gonna give my calibration a look in the morning. Thanks!
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(I removed my reply, above, because I'd missed your raw link and had adjusted the original JPG you posted...)

The overall issue seems to be mixed-lighting consisting of some overhead lighting that is more reddish, perhaps incandescent or maybe some warm fluorescent lighting, then flash that is more blue. Adding an amber filter to the flash to shift it towards the same reddish ambient lighting would help. Alternatively a couple umbrellas/softboxes on either side to fully wrap the bluer flash lighting around the sides would make the skin tones consistent across their faces as well as add some of that blue to the background.

Here is a sequence of adjustments to your raw files, using the Camera Raw 8.5 plug-in for Photoshop which has the same adjustments as Lightroom 5.5.

First, the unadjusted raw file with ACR defaults. There seems to be a magenta cast:


Second I eyedroppered the WB from a somewhat upward facing neutral area in an effort to get an average of the overhead amber and front blue lighting:


After adjusting the WB, I set the black and white points shift-double-clicking on the white and black slider handles. Normally I would do more complex toning, but we're discussing color so I stopped with just these two:


These are just standard edits and I might have stopped here with the color adjustments, but since this discussion is about the redness of the image and lack of controls in LR, I went a little further.

To give them more of a tanned look, I shifted the skintones a little toward orange/yellow by using the targeted-adjustment-tool on the HSL Hue tab on one of the redder skinned cheeks:


Finally, there is some blue from the flash in the shadows where the reddish overhead lighting was not as bright, so I used the TAT on the HSL Saturation tab against a shadowed area of her white dress to remove some blue cast. I first drug the tool up to oversaturate the blues just to check what areas I was affecting in case there was some important blue in the clothing which would make me not to this step. Since there wasn't, I went ahead and drug the TAT down a bit to desaturate blues:


Here is that same final image side-by-side with your initial LR and PS adjustments. I didn't do full toning adjustments on mine so it lacks contrast, but compare the colors to your PS one that you prefer. I wasn't trying to duplicate what you did, just adjust to my tastes for their skincolor without changing the background too much:
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Steve I think your color seems a little more even than mine. You adjusted the highlights and shadows separately which helps. I think the biggest thing that helped me was someone mentioned RGB curves which I did not know Lightroom had. It's not as easy as Photoshop but it's there. Thanks for your efforts.