Lightroom/Camera Raw: Rename "DNG Profile Editor" to "Camera Calibration Profile Editor".

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The present name implies use for DNG format only.

Although the documentation is clear that it can be used for all raw formats, the name is misleading and many folk who prefer proprietary formats for the time being, never realize they can also use it.
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  • happier than I may seem with Lightroom and "DNG" Profile Editor.

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>The present name implies use for DNG format only.

Which is true, you need a DNG to build said profile. Too many hear the term “profile” and assume ICC profile which this isn’t. There are, and have been ICC camera profiles for years and years. An ICC and a DNG profile are vastly different!

Nothing is misleading here, but there are some misunderstandings!
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The name "Camera Calibration Profile Editor" clearly associates the profile to the corresponding feature in ACR/Lightroom.
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>It's a "Camera Calibration Profile Creator", and it can create those profiles from DNG files.

And edit the profiles.
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But it can't edit the Camera Calibration Profiles, it can only edit the embedded DNG profiles, correct? I'm going by what Rob said above because as I said I haven't used it in a while.
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I am not clear on the differences here in terms of the language. You can edit a profile that is inside a DNG and use it with other raws. The initial DNG is used to see what colors you are editing. The "camera calibration profiles" and "embedded DNG profile" are the same, at least the resulting usage of the profiles.
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Maybe it's all just words, but I thought the camera calibration profiles were .dcp files, which are based on the profiles embedded DNG profile.
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Well yes, I think so. That is, a .dcp file is a DNG profile.

http://dcptool.sourceforge.net/Introd...:
DCP files are an open standard for defining the color rendition of digital cameras, and are used by various Adobe products including Lightroom and Photoshop/Camera Raw.
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On my Mac, the application used to edit DNG profiles is called DNG Profile Editor which makes sense as it edits DNG profiles, which are built from a DNG document. HOW you use the profile afterwards (with DNG’s or proprietary raws) is unclear because some people don’t read how the resulting DNG profiles are used.

How do you propose users who JPEG’s or TIFFs or PSDs what to expect from either name? You tell them to learn how to use the product, by reading the documentation, understanding what Embedded means.
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Although one can easily argue that "DNG Profile Editor" is a more technically correct name, one reason for this "Idea" was to bring visibility to the fact that it can be used even if you don't convert to DNG (except temporarily to create the camera calibration profiles). Although I take full responsibility for my wrong assumption that it was not a tool for me since I have opted not to convert to DNG for the time being, I am keenly aware that "many" users make the same mistake.

I seriously doubt Adobe will change the name at this point, but I hope people will at least realize that the capability to adjust color with greater specificity is only an app away, regardless of their chosen working format.

PS - CaptureOnePro has two modes for their color adjustment tool: Basic & Advanced. Basic is like the HSL tool & Advanced is like the DNG Profile Editor - intimidating at first, but then quite easy to use, except for all the hoops one has to jump through in the Lightroom case...

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In my opinion, DNG Profile Editor is a fine name, but Camera Calibration Profile Editor would result in less people making the mistake that they need to keep their raws in DNG format in order to take advantage of it.

I believe its naming was no accident, since Adobe is pushing for users to convert to DNG anyway... - I doubt it will change.