Lightroom: LR4 Beta: Make Print Adjustment options available in the Export Module

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Make Print Adjustment options available in the export module.
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Andrew Rodney

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You want an exported image to look different from what you see in LR?
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Harry Janssen

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Eh, no. I was thinking that if you want to send images to a printing lab for printing. The same would apply here, they would/could print too dark. For the same reason as you would use the "Print Adjustment" sliders in the "Print Job" panel. I know that you could "print to a jpg file". But I thought that putting it also in the export module could make it more versatile?
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I just tried using the print to jpg option in the print module. Now, that works fine on one image, but not if you need to do many. Also, no sizing options etc like you would have available in the export module.

So, it would make sense to me to have it available in the Export Module.

What say you?
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If the lab is printing too dark, there is an issue with the lab! The entire adjustment sliders are super goofy as far as I’m concerned.

If you are going to edit the data because it really is too dark, edit the data (alter a slider and export). If the data only appears too dark because your display is too bright, adjust the display.

I think having such an adjustment in Export could be a dangerous option. IF you really must apply a tweak because you have prints that appear darker than the display, have this set of sliders apply in the Print module when you export to a JPEG (still an odd thing to do but at least this ‘tool’ is left in one place).
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Hi Andrew. Firstly, I send my images to the printing lab "print ready". Otherwise if they are going to correct them I get unpredictable results. The print adjustment sliders were introduced because many people have issues with images printing too dark. This because of the super radiant screens we have nowadays. Display adjustment is not an option ( you may need to read up about it ). I agree with you in a way. It seems a goofy thing to do. But I have used the print adjustment sliders very successfully on my printers at home. It works much better than tuning the screen down. I don't see any danger in having this option in the export module. Something you just turn on or off like all other options? Thanks for your feedback!
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The Print Adjustment is primarily designed to compensate for paper and ink inconsistencies. It's range is too limited to effectively combat the too-bright screen.

I am interested in your statement indicating that "Display adjustment is not an option" Why? I have fixed many a system by setting the monitor to the correct brightness.
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Maybe I explain the problem in a lousy way. Maybe this explains it better:

http://lightroomkillertips.com/2010/p...

Julieanne Kost talked about this issue as well, but I can't find that piece of video....

It is not really a calibration issue. It is the way we view an image on a radiant bright screen. I have used the method in the above tips and that works. But I thought that it would be handy to have this in the export stage.
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It is not really a calibration issue. It is the way we view an image on a radiant bright screen.

That exactly IS a calibration issue! See:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tut...

A print is either too dark or it isn’t. If it is too dark, there are many causes (theRGB values are incorrect, the printer driver or settings are incorrect etc). A print that looks darker than a display and only appears dark when compared to the display isn’t a dark print. It is an issue with display calibration. The sliders do nothing to fix that issue.
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Maybe I explain the problem in a lousy way. Maybe this explains it better:

http://lightroomkillertips.com/2010/p...


Matt is equally ill informed and confused about the issue as I tried to point out to him with ill effect. It is most certainly a calibration issue.
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Andrew Rodney

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>Matt is equally ill informed and confused about the issue as I tried to point out to him with ill effect.

Worse, I now see based on the URL you posted above, he deleted my posts on the blog trying to get him to understand the issues. The Luminous Landscape article was a direct result of the NAPP gang providing ridiculous information of which they know not; color management!