I recently shot some images on my Canon 5D Mark III that I knew were destined for 4:5 (or 8:10) crop. I turned on the "Add cropping information: Aspect ratio 4:5" option in the camera.
This allowed me to review the images on the back of the camera with a line on both sides that represented what would initially need to be cropped away to change aspect ratios. I figured I would need to slide the crop box to one side or the other in post to get the desired framing, so I was really just using it as a reference.
When I brought the RAW images into Lightroom 4.2, to my great dismay , I could not see the pixels outside of the 4:5 bars. It was as if they were never there, and the image was 4:5 right out of the camera instead of the usual native 2:3. Look on the camera, and they're there. Lightroom, gone. This left me with numerous images with the edge of the subject cut off just a bit, ruining them. I was shooting from an awkward position, so framing was a challenge, and I intended to easily fix that by cropping in post along with cropping to the intended 4:5 ratio.
Fortunately, I was able to edit them in Canon's Digital Photo Professional software and get what I wanted, but it was a hassle because I haven't used that program in a few years. At least it let me "uncrop" to the camera's full image, and then I could place the actual 4:5 crop where I wanted it without anything being thrown overboard beforehand.
Lightroom briefly displayed them with black bars, like a letterboxed movie, before cropping them to the in-camera option.
Entering the Crop tool on any of these images brings up the (what I know to be cropped) image with the drag frame/bounding bars matching the dimensions of the whole image. If I hit reset, nothing happens. "As Shot," "Original," or "4x5/8x10" still stays at the full dimensions. Normally, if you pulled up a regular image that didn't have this in-camera crop information in it, and chose, say, 4x5, the bars would immediately reflect those new, proposed proportions in a centered fashion, and one could drag and/or resize as desired.
This allowed me to review the images on the back of the camera with a line on both sides that represented what would initially need to be cropped away to change aspect ratios. I figured I would need to slide the crop box to one side or the other in post to get the desired framing, so I was really just using it as a reference.
When I brought the RAW images into Lightroom 4.2, to my great dismay , I could not see the pixels outside of the 4:5 bars. It was as if they were never there, and the image was 4:5 right out of the camera instead of the usual native 2:3. Look on the camera, and they're there. Lightroom, gone. This left me with numerous images with the edge of the subject cut off just a bit, ruining them. I was shooting from an awkward position, so framing was a challenge, and I intended to easily fix that by cropping in post along with cropping to the intended 4:5 ratio.
Fortunately, I was able to edit them in Canon's Digital Photo Professional software and get what I wanted, but it was a hassle because I haven't used that program in a few years. At least it let me "uncrop" to the camera's full image, and then I could place the actual 4:5 crop where I wanted it without anything being thrown overboard beforehand.
Lightroom briefly displayed them with black bars, like a letterboxed movie, before cropping them to the in-camera option.
Entering the Crop tool on any of these images brings up the (what I know to be cropped) image with the drag frame/bounding bars matching the dimensions of the whole image. If I hit reset, nothing happens. "As Shot," "Original," or "4x5/8x10" still stays at the full dimensions. Normally, if you pulled up a regular image that didn't have this in-camera crop information in it, and chose, say, 4x5, the bars would immediately reflect those new, proposed proportions in a centered fashion, and one could drag and/or resize as desired.
Posted 7 years ago
Steve Sprengel, Champion
Steve Sprengel, Champion
Jim Wilde, Champion
Eric Chan, Camera Raw Engineer
For nearly all cameras that offer the in-camera crop / aspect ratio feature (e.g., current models from Canon, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, Samsung, and Sony) the JPEG is always cropped to the in-camera setting. Similarly, the live preview shown on the back of the LCD only shows the cropped portion. This has been my experience as well with the 5D III, though Jim has found otherwise.
Starting with all models newly supported in ACR 7.2 / Lightroom 4.2, there is now the built-in ability in ACR / Lr (without the use of an external plug-in) to use the full raw image data.
Starting with all models newly supported in ACR 7.2 / Lightroom 4.2, there is now the built-in ability in ACR / Lr (without the use of an external plug-in) to use the full raw image data.
Jim Wilde, Champion
Well, I'm a bit puzzled then. I've checked again with those samples I sent you (plus others) and the cropping information is definitely there on the associated jpegs (both the raw and the jpeg show the exact same "crop line" information when viewed in DPP). So I have no idea what's going on.
Personally, it's not a problem as I don't usually shoot Jpeg anyway, and I doubt I'd ever want/need to use that custom function (I only came across the "anomaly" when doing some testing for another user).....but if others get the same result as me they may also be somewhat perplexed.
But thanks for the response.
Personally, it's not a problem as I don't usually shoot Jpeg anyway, and I doubt I'd ever want/need to use that custom function (I only came across the "anomaly" when doing some testing for another user).....but if others get the same result as me they may also be somewhat perplexed.
But thanks for the response.
Rikk Flohr, Champion
Eric, what happens on mRaw or sRaw files?
Steve Sprengel, Champion
