Lightroom 3 Brushes Bug

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I have Lightroom 3.4.1 and I'm encountering a persistent bug. In the Develop module the adjustment brushes will just stop working. I'll be going along and working and then all of a sudden the brushes dont work. They still let you use them but they arent doing anything. If I select to see mask overlay it does have that where my brush strokes were but its not altering the image at all. I have not changed any settings. This literally happens going from 1 picture to another. Then once it breaks it breaks in all of lightroom and all catalogs. After a few days it randomly seems to start working again. I have Googled and tried seperating everything into their own catalogs so I dont have too many images in one, keep my recycle bin clean, restart my computer etc. I have a high end production laptop with plenty of memory. This is causing a HUGE problem in my workflow
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It sounds to me like you might be running into a situation where you are accidentally setting your Density or your Flow too low to see a result. It is easy to do this if you attempt to attach a Star Rating while in the Adjustment brush. For example: if you set to a Star rating of 1 star, and the brush is active, it will set the Flow to 10 (very low and difficult to see).

The next time it happens, look at your Flow and Density and see if they are so low that they are painting with almost nothing. The fact that your mask is appearing as you paint leads me to believe this is what is happening.

On a side note: Separating catalogs has very little impact on system performance-particularly in the Develop Module. Most people need a real compelling reason to keep more than one catalog. (Non-disclosure agreements, Specialty teaching catalogs). System performance is not a compelling reason on catalogs I have seen with hundreds of thousands of images.
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Hi, thanks for your reply but my density and flow settings are still correct. I even tried resetting them to make sure but it doesn't make a difference. Flow is 40 and Density is 100. I had never changed those settings and was using the default. Do those settings sound correct to you? When it quit working for me I didn't change any star or color rating. I already have my ratings done and am working in my smart collections on final touch ups.

About the catalogs, when I had all my images in 1 I was having major performance issues particularly with the heal tool. I would get 10 in one image and the program would crash. I only had about 2000 images but Lightroom was crashing all the time. I did a Google search and asked a couple photographer friends and they had the same issues. That problem seems to be better now that I'm using separate catalogs. Also the workflow for separate catalogs is nice. Each job is its own catalog and i keep the raw images in its folder so when its time to back up the images i can backup the catalog with it and save the working file which is lightroom.
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As for your brush settings, Those sound reasonable. I don't know what adjustment(s) you are trying to paint so that makes it a bit of a wild card. If it acts up again, Create a +4 Exposure brush and set your flow to 100. If it paints, it will be obvious.

It would be helpful to know some of your system specs:
OS (Guessing PC)
Ram
Processor etc.

I am using a five year-old desktop (PC) and a 2 1/2 year-old Macbook (Dual Boot Mac and PC) and routinely use catalogs with 125,000 images and don't see a performance hit that is noticeable over a catalog with 25 images-except in heavy metadata searches.

The heal tool and the adjustment brush work on only one image at a time. Performance in the Develop module should be similar with a catalog of one image or ten thousand images.

I can tell you that your machine's behavior is not typical.
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I was trying to use the Iris enhance tool, soften skin and teeth whitening tools. All weren't showing any difference.

I'm using a PC. its a Dell laptop (1 year old)
Precision M4500
Windows 7 service pack 1
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 820 @1.73GHz 1.73GHz
RAM 4GB
System type: 64-bit
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With those specs you shouldn't be seeing issues.

Are you using lots of Lens Corrections or Spot Removals on the offending images?

Beyond that, make sure that you absolutely have the latest video and mouse drivers installed on your system. Also poll your C: drive and see how much free space is left.
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I'm not using any lens corrections. Spot removals I am. Once the brushes stop working its ALL images in ALL catalogs that they stop working on not just on that image.

I double checked and all my drivers are up to date.

I have the Adobe suite and use Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash regularly and I'm not having any problems with them, only Lightroom. I only use Lightroom primarily on the weekends as my day job is mostly Flash, Photoshop and Illustrator.

Also, I had Googled this issue before posting here and others seem to be experiencing similar issues and are not getting answers either. People that had posted on other forums with these issues had said Lightroom 2 they never had any problems but 3 has been very buggy. Are you using Lightroom 2 were you've never seen these issues?
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I have been using Lightroom 3 since the public beta and have never seen this. I teach Lightroom and have had my hands on 30-40 LR3 computers in the past few months and not seen this.

I have not found LR 3 to be buggy at all since 3.2.

FWIW, I spend about 4 hours a day in Lightroom and run it very hard in both the PC and Mac environments and I seldom see any issue and most of those are caused by non-Lightroom issues (Monitor Profiles, Video Drivers, Wacom Tablet Drivers, etc).

Recommendations:

1. Rename your preferences file. This will force LR to rebuild it. or...
2. Reinstall Lightroom version 3.4.1 from the website from scratch after uninstalling your current version.
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I am having the exact same issue. I have reset the brushes in preferences, gone through the recommendations above. I have also tried suggestions from other threads with no resolution. I believe it is a bug in the works. Still trying to find a solution.
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Tina,

What version of Lightroom are you using?