Lightroom Classic: Truncates Long Names In Folder Panel

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My photo collection is organized via long & descriptive folder names, but even when I expand the Library module's left panel as wide as it will go, you cannot see the full name.  Worse, if you hover over the name in hopes of seeing it via a tooltip, the tooltip is truncated.  Here's a screenshot as an example: https://www.screencast.com/t/DZiugeMgcx

Note that this definitely isn't a limitation with tooltips themselves, as you can actually highlight a photo, expand the *right* panel, go to the metadata section, find the "folder" field, and hover that, which will properly show the full path.  Screenshot: https://www.screencast.com/t/htsYoAvQg

Is there a reason why we should be prevented from expanding the left panel far enough to see our full folder names?  This makes it pretty much impossible to manage my photo collection from within LR, and I'm always forced to go back to Windows Explorer...

(Note, just to preempt a possible response: I know keywords/collections/etc are an alternative method to organize, which wouldn't require long foldernames.  That's beyond the scope of this question. Due to other software I use to navigate my collection remotely, and other non-LR users viewing photos on the same file share, descriptive folder names are necessary).
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I'm going to give that answer anyway: even if those long names are necessary for viewing remotely, that does not mean that you could not create a smart collection hierarchy that mirrors your folder structure and has (much) shorter names.
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As tpnotes mentioned, having to make smart collections for things that are already sorted literally doubles the amount of maintenance work & is completely impractical (that's why I was careful to state that it's not part of the scope of this question). The maintenance burden of sorting everything once is already nontrivial; doing it twice because of a bug in LR effectively turns me away from using it for any file management. While the LR docs emphasize that you should always use LR itself for all your file management, to be able to do that, it has to be functional.  Which if you can't even see your full folder names, it isn't. 

What I always end up doing is avoiding any feature that isn't written to XMP (i.e. flags, virtual copies, etc) so that I can still manage my files in a functional file browser (aka shows full names), then when I'm done with my organization, I come back & resync everything in LR.  It's also cumbersome, but MUCH less cumbersome than having to replicate my entire organizational process twice.

It would be much simpler to just let us expand the panel enough to actually be able to see our folder names... :P

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Sigh. Of course that would be much simpler. Nobody says otherwise. So sit back and wait till Adobe has solved this.
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Smart Collections are not an answer to a GUI behavior that I would consider a bug nowadays and that applies to the collections panel as well as to the folders panel in library module. And it applies for the presets panel in development modules too.

Limiting the width of the side panels might had been a good idea when Lightroom was released, but today it’s annoying at best. Personally, I think it is just another sign for neglecting sensible product development, which unfortunately seems to be a specialty of Adobe.

I sync Lightroom Classic with CC and have to come up with ridiculously truncated names for my collections since the nested structure of collections is not synced to CC and long collection names are not properly displayed in Lightroom Classic. In Lightroom Classic itself, I am not able to read full collection names, if I nested one collection set in another. As I said it is annoying.

Additionally, making a smart collection for something which is already properly sorted is not efficient and needs a lot of maintenance from me as a user. I like my software to make my workflows more efficient, not more clumsy and prone to failure.
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Using smart collections is obviously a workaround. It will work, but if you don't want to use it that's up to you.
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Obviously we have a different comprehension of the word "workaround". And I can't see how smart collection would help with my naming problem of collections and collection sets.
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I'm just trying to help. I believe smart collections can help here, because you can create a smart collection called 'XYZ' that is defined as 'Folder name contains XXXXXYYYYYYYZZZZZ'. You can do the same thing with collections that have too long names. That way you can mirror your folders and collections, with names that are short enough to be displayed fully.

I'm not saying this is perfect or that it solves all your problems, I'm just saying that this might be a way to overcome the current limitations you are faced with. In other words, it might be a work around.
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But what if I want the full long name to display? Like, if I have given it that name for a reason?
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"Is there a reason why we should be prevented from expanding the left panel far enough to see our full folder names? "

Undocumented shortcut: Hold Opt / Alt while you drag the divider of the left or right panels, and you can make them as wide as you want.
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I think that's a Mac-only hidden feature, John. I've never ben able to make it work on Windows.
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Indeed, it doesn't work in my Windows 10 either.  Please add your constructive opinion and vote to this new bug report: 
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-alt-drag-on-windows-doesnt-expand-l...
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Correct. I noticed the OP uses Windows, so I did not mention this.
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Victoria Bampton wrote: "On Windows, you used to be able to stretch them beyond the standard limit without needing an extra key, but that seems to have died with Windows 10." So maybe my memory wasn't that bad...
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+1'ed. That would solve it.
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You can also recover a little bit of space in the left margin of the Folder panel by hiding top-level folders: Right-click the folder and do Hide This Parent.  Obviously, this is helpful only if you can get by without seeing that folder; but every little bit helps.
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Already minimized as much as I can - it's not even close to long enough :(
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I completely agree that limiting the width of the LHS panel is a great annoyance! I keep ALL my photos in a detailed table structure which can be quite deep. This ensures that even if LR catalogue fails, I will always have the originals in a logical table structure, albeit without enhancements. I have a 5k iMac and there is plenty of screen real estate. It is VERY frustrating to be unable to easily drill down into the tables because the panel is too narrow.
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However, I take it all back! The LHS panel DOES expand if it is OPTION-dragged!
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Not on Windows.
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Thanks for the tip on Opt/Alt drag. Works for me on Mac. But you all might be interested in this idea for a full Organizational Module: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/module-suggestion-organize

What do you think?
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Definitely wouldn't hurt, but a whole new module is a pretty huge ask. Considering you can't even properly *see* the foldernames currently...I'd rather just start small & request getting the barebones basics working properly for now ;)
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Well, yes, but I don't think it would be that hard. It is basically just a user interface thing. They already have the functionality in the Folder Panel. It just needs the ability to have multiple folder panels so you could see what you are doing when dragging and renaming etc.