It is just the public link gallery that does not sort correctly. The public gallery has an Icon that allows me to change the sort order. When I re-sort from newest to oldest, it displays correctly. When I re-sort from oldest to newest, the incorrect/random order is again displayed.
This is incredibly frustrating!
In the second screen shot, there are pictures of my family in front of a tiger background. The screen shots below are in the correct sequence. The public collection mixes those photos up in no recognizable pattern.
There are other anomalies to the public collection photo order, but this should give you a good idea of what is occurring. The collection in Lightroom Desktop is sorted by ascending capture date. Please let me know if anything else would help you.
I believe that if you drag/drop re-order an image in Lightroom Desktop and then drag it back to where you want, that will "reset" the custom order to match what you want.
Let me know if that doesn't work and one of us will dig in a little further.
This is probably a little more info than you bargained for, but hopefully it'll help you understand what's going on here.
The sort order you have selected in Lightroom Desktop doesn't actually get synced to the share, so it won't matter which you have selected for what shows up in the share. It also look like there's a bug in Lightroom Desktop where custom order values are always written into the assets. On the share view on the web, we default to sorting by either custom order if it exists, or capture date descending (newest first) if that isn't set. But because the custom order is always getting set, we aren't hitting our fallback.
For now the easiest way to work around this is to view the photos in the order you want to default to in Lightroom Desktop, and then drag/drop an image to force the custom order to re-sort (then if you drag the image back it'll be custom ordered to that same order).
We're also investigating the custom order issues on Desktop, and looking into ways to improve the experience on web given this behavior. This is definitely not working as intended right now.
Let me know if you're able to get the default view updated, or if that's not taking.
Thanks for the information. It helped me understand what you were asking me to do. I have never used "Custom" sort so it took a couple of tries, but that did temporarily resolve the problem. My guess is that this will need to be redone periodically as I add photos to the collection but I haven't tested it yet.
I don't understand how the custom order values were set in the first place. As I said, I have never used Custom sort or any sort feature and have always let my collections default to ascending capture date. I had wanted to learn how to do custom sorts for slideshows but never took the time to figure it out. I guess I learned something in the process.
My suggestion is to include an option to designate the sort order when making the collection public. From the outside looking in, this seems reasonable and relatively easy because other options can be designated such as whether a user can download pictures.
To be clear, the custom order values were set because of a bug on our side -- this was a surprise to me as well when I tested it.
Thanks for the additional feedback -- I'll be following up with our teams to see if we can improve the experience here. This definitely isn't the experience we intended.
The temporary fix is to force the Custom order values to be reset to the same order as my desired order by (1) sorting the collection by ascending capture date (for my needs), then (2), dragging a photo out of the order to reset the custom order values, (3) then dragging that photo back to its correct order consistent with ascending capture date so that the custom order values match what I am trying to accomplish.
Got it! For me, understanding the details makes all the difference.
Take care, Don
It's great that you are working on improving the custom sort order in Desktop. However it would also be nice to be able to manually specify what sort order Lightroom Mobile should use (custom, date, filename, etc) in each collection, rather than defaulting to "custom" and falling back to "date".
Interestingly, reverse sort order on the Mobile public link seems to always be reverse capture date, even if the forward sort order is custom.
When I privately view the photos in an album they display correctly in chronological order; however, when I create a public link to the album, the photos displayed via the public link are in a different (non chronological order). They appear to be in the order I last edited them in Lightroom Classic. Further, when viewing the photos via the public link, I can click the sort order icon which displays the photos in reverse chronological order correctly, but when I click the link again the order is reversed to the original non-chronological order.
I have tried unsharing the album and then resharing the album but the problem remains. It seems that I cannot view the album in forward chronological order unless I view them privately. Can someone help with this issue? I would really like to share my album in the correct order.
I'm having problems with the sort order in Shared Collections via Public Link: the photo order is just a mess. They seems to appear in the order in which the photos were added to the Shared Collection.
I'd like to keep them usually by Capture Time, sometimes in Custom Order.
But, currently they seem to be sorted by Added Order based not on when imported to Lightroom but when added to the Shared Collection.
It's a pain not to have control in which order a client sees the photos.
This has to change.
Give the photographer the possibility to control the order in which photos appear in Shared Collections via Public Link. At least let us choose by Capture Time.
Using Lightroom CC 2015.14 and Lightroom CC on iOS.
I’m having a related sorting problem that doesn’t appear to be fixed by this work-around. I’ve created an album with a custom order (using the mobile version), but that custom order doesn’t display properly when shared as a web gallery. Specifically, this is the behavior I’m seeing in the various flavors of Lightroom CC.
Custom order displays properly (not surprising as I created it in the mobile version)
Reverse order displays properly
Desktop (Mac OS 10.13.3)
Custom order displays properly
Reverse order displays properly
(My only complaint is that the desktop version doesn’t allow for any changes of the custom order)
Web Lightroom CC (Safari 11.0.3)
Custom order defaults to reverse order (but is otherwise correct)
Reverse order – there does not appear to be a way to reverse the order when in “Sort by custom order” mode (unlike “Sort by Capture Date” which has an arrow allowing the reverse switch)
The default view is the reverse of the custom order I set up.
Clicking on the “reverse order” icon (upper right corner) changes the order to “reverse chronological”, with the most recently capture photos at the top and the oldest at the bottom (and NOT in the custom order I created)
Clicking on the “reverse order” icon reverts to the “reversed custom” order originally present.
I’ve tried the suggested work-around (manually changing the custom order and then back again to ‘reset’ things), but nothing changed. This is a fairly substantial bug as sharing photos is a major feature of a cloud-based photo platform. This thread is now a year old with no permanent fix. How long will this continue?
Explain me why photos in a Collection show up in different order all over LR ecosystem, especially in LR Web (as per 26th October 2018)?
- photos in a collection LR Classic CC arrenged via Custom Order
- looking at photos in LR Web via Private Link in Photos tab initially show up in an order arrenged by Capture Date so I need to manually change it to show up in Custom Order, as arranged in LR Classic CC
- but, now photos in LR Web in Display tab show up in totally messed up order that it's not by Capture Date nor by Custom Order set up in LR Classic CC
This drives me nuts.
Why are you making me lose time with something this trivial?
Can anyone in Adobe Lightroom team explain me why photos show up in totally different order between LR ecosystem (desktop, web, shared link)?
Thank you for listening.
Using LR Classic CC 7.5 on a Mac with macOS 10.12.6.
EDIT: It gets more messed up if you add photos to a Collection in multiple steps.
I have a long-awaited update here.On lightroom web we now have the ability to re-sort the custom sort order by several orders under the display options for sharing, as you can see in the screens below. We’ll also be looking at ways to provide sorting options when you create shares in other client applications, as we’re not doing a good job of setting expectations now.
If you’re interested in the ability to “live sort”, please see this new thread: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/live-sort-options-in-shares.
We added the ability to add text & dividers for the layout for albums in October, and this functionality really requires a custom order (or a lot of complexity when you change sorts).