Lightroom Classic: Presets - 'Update with Current Settings Option' replaced with only 'Apply on Import

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After upgrading from 7.2 to 7.4, all of a sudden the option to update any pre existing personalised presets with 'Update with Current Settings' has been removed and replaced with only 'Apply on Import'. I'd like to know why and if this is a bug can it be repaired please as I use this function on every Lightroom session. Thanks,

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Keith Bennett

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  • disappointed and hopeful it will be rectified asap

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Yves Crausaz

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Only custom presets display the full options, presets provided by Adobe can not be modified.
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Keith Bennett

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thanks Yves, but like I said in my description "pre existing personalised presets" meaning created by myself. I never use presets provided by Adobe, thanks for your thoughts anyway
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Yves Crausaz

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This may be a problem with file access OS permissions.
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Keith Bennett

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not sure how.. there has never been an issue before this version
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Chinoy Gupta, Employee

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Hi Keith,

Have you unchecked the "Enable hover preview of presets in Loupe" option in Preferences->Performance tab? If yes, can you try enabling it and then trying.

Thanks,
Chinoy
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thanks Chinoy, the same experience is with that setting on or off. And I like most choose to run with that workflow disorienting function disabled
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Thanks for additional info. Also looking at the screenshot you shared, the first one does not look like 7.2. As "Add to Favorites" was added in 7.3. Can you reconfirm the Lr version where it was working.
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ok you caught me out, nicely observed.. instead of reverting to 7.2 and going through the same process just for a simple screenshot, I replicated the essential problem which is that in 7.2 you can apply any updates to any personal presets at any time.. in 7.4 (and maybe even 7.3 Im not sure) you cant, only to the preset you have selected to apply to an image.. all other personal presets the only alt menu option is 'apply on import'. I trust that clarifies my screenshot validity
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Ok. Thanks for clarifying that. We will investigate it further.
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Keith Bennett

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thanks!.. the problem appears to be the alt menu popup is being cropped top and bottom, if you look closely above the  'apply on import' text, you can see the line above it which is the bottom of the next option Add to Favourites.. by design that would be messy visual programming you wouldnt be showing a line like that, hope you follow what I mean
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I will add one more thing to the fault description; If I apply one of my personal presets to an image, then and only then is just that selected preset able to  'Update with Current Settings'. No other one of my personal presets is able to be updated, only 'apply on import'. 
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I just tested, if "Enable preview of the preset on hovering is disabled", only an applied preset can be modified, if this function is activated, the behavior is normal,
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Hi, thanks for the update. I also have tested again after your reply just to make sure I wasn't wrong and I have also tested with brand new personal presets created in version 7.4 just in case there is an upgrade issue using presets created in a previous version. I have found no difference to my earlier findings. The same behaviour is exhibited with the hover function enabled or disabled. Can you confirm the number of personal presets you are testing against and that they are not all copies of the same personal preset. I am a very experienced Lightroom user and find it hard to believe the problem is with the preset hover enable/disable feature, sorry
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Keith, in my LR 7.4 the context menu properly displays regardless of the setting of Enable Hover Preview.  So I agree, that setting doesn't seem to be related to the problem.
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I have the same problem
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Josef Kissinger

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How in the world am I supposed to update my user created presets?
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"How in the world am I supposed to update my user created presets?"

Did you try Keith's workaround?  Edit an image in Develop, apply the preset you want to change to the image, change the settings in the Develop panels, then right-click the preset and do Update With Current Settings.
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Keith, a couple of hypotheses to test:

- The problem appears that the context menu isn't fully displaying. Try disabling Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor. That option now controls not only the Loupe window but other display painting operations as well.

- Try resetting LR's preferences: 
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/
LR stores previous window sizes and positions in the preferences. LR not infrequently soils its preferences, which can sometimes cause window positioning to get screwed up.
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thanks for the ideas John.. my Graphics Processor option was already disabled so I tried it enabled as well.. same problem both configurations.. also v7.4 did this out the box so I would hopefully assume the preferences file was not corrupted.. I will try that though and I know what you mean about the preferences file messing itself up on occasion
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Note that installing a new version of LR uses the existing preferences -- it doesn't create them anew.
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Keith Bennett

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you are absolutely right... ok so I just reset them and still the same issue sadly.. are you still experiencing the same issue John
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One more workaround you can try is, just hover over the preset you want to update. Wait for the preview to be updated in Navigator/Loupe view and then right-click. You should get the full list of options. Let me know if that works for you.

Thanks,
Chinoy
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same issue here, context menu when I try to update presets just shows "apply on import" and "add to favourites"
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