Lightroom Classic: Presets including raw profiles are sometimes available for non-raws, sometimes not

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[LR 8.1 now displays partially compatible presets in grey italics, which will avoid the confusion experienced by many users:]

Presets including raw profiles via Treatment & Profile are sometimes visible in the Presets panel when a non-raw is selected, sometimes not.  This is confusing.

- Presets including DCP raw profiles are visible for non-raws (Adobe Standard and all Camera Matching profiles).

- Presets including enhanced raw profiles are not visible for non-raws (Adobe Color, Monochrome, Landscape, Neutral, Portrait, Vivid).

This is clearly inconsistent behavior, since none of these raw profiles can actually be applied to non-raws.  LR should either hide all such presets for non-raws or make them all available, ignoring the raw profile when the preset is applied to a non-raw.

I think it should make them all available for non-raws, given this use case: People often click the Check All button when creating a preset.  When they round-trip a raw to Photoshop and get back a TIFF, they expect that such a preset should be applicable to the TIFF as much as to a raw, not remembering or knowing they clicked Treatment and Profile.

If LR makes none of these raw-profile-containing presets available for non-raws, then that will create another most frequent FAQ, "Why can't I see my preset?", analogous to "Where are the lens profiles?".
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Official Response
This behavior is intentional - presets specifying DCP profiles—such as Adobe Standard, the camera matching profiles (with names starting with "Camera"), and third party DCP profiles—are not filtered out on non-raw files. This is to not destroy the workflows established in previous versions of the software which didn't do any preset filtering at all.

In the future, we may add a preference to also hide presets that apply DCP based profiles on non-raw images rather than just ignoring the profile setting.