Lightroom Classic: Presets including raw profiles are sometimes available for non-raws, sometimes not

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[LR 8.1 now displays partially compatible presets in grey italics, which will avoid the confusion experienced by many users:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom-presets-including-raw-profiles-are-...]

Presets including raw profiles via Treatment & Profile are sometimes visible in the Presets panel when a non-raw is selected, sometimes not.  This is confusing.

- Presets including DCP raw profiles are visible for non-raws (Adobe Standard and all Camera Matching profiles).

- Presets including enhanced raw profiles are not visible for non-raws (Adobe Color, Monochrome, Landscape, Neutral, Portrait, Vivid).

This is clearly inconsistent behavior, since none of these raw profiles can actually be applied to non-raws.  LR should either hide all such presets for non-raws or make them all available, ignoring the raw profile when the preset is applied to a non-raw.

I think it should make them all available for non-raws, given this use case: People often click the Check All button when creating a preset.  When they round-trip a raw to Photoshop and get back a TIFF, they expect that such a preset should be applicable to the TIFF as much as to a raw, not remembering or knowing they clicked Treatment and Profile.

If LR makes none of these raw-profile-containing presets available for non-raws, then that will create another most frequent FAQ, "Why can't I see my preset?", analogous to "Where are the lens profiles?".
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I rarely use Develop Presets. Since starting to use Lightroom I've added only three User Defined presets, the last one being added more than one year ago. 

I added User Defined preset number 4 a few days ago. I tested the new preset with a couple of Canon raw files (CR2). It worked perfectly.

Having deliberately held off the update to Lightroom 7.5 I then allowed the update to proceed.

After the update completed I discovered that the new preset wasn't showing up for duty on JPG and TIF files, although it was visible and working on CR2 files. The older presets were visible and working OK for all file types.

I thought the problem was somehow connected to the update.

I found this thread after a couple of hours thrashing around trying to find the solution.

I can confirm that the problem is still present in Lightroom 7.5

I'm baffled and irritated.


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Another user gets confused: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2531093
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Preset not appearing.

I created a new preset which I would like to use on my other images also.
When I go to develop a new image that preset I created no longer appears on the list. 
It only appears when I go back to the image I created the preset.

I am using a mac
Lightroom classic CC 7.5 release
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And another user gets confused: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2534193
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Another user asks, "Where are my presets?"
https://forums.adobe.com/message/10622676#10622676
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Another user asks, "Where are my presets?"
https://forums.adobe.com/message/10712299#10712299
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Another person confused by LR silently hiding inapplicable presets: 
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/presets-disappear-for-dngs
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Updates to the Lightroom CC Ecosystem and Lightroom Classic CC were released earlier today. Please update your software and let us know if you are still experiencing this issue. 
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Excellent, LR 8.1 by default shows these "partially compatible" presets (containing raw profiles) as grey italics in the Presets panel:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html#main-pars_text_848740471 

This will avoid a large number of users getting confused and asking "Where are my presets?"