Lightroom Photography Plan Options Between 20GB and 1TB

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I'm a photography enthusiast (would probably consider myself as a beginner/intermediate since I've only just picked up my first mirrorless camera in 2018) who doesn't get any income whatsoever from my photos (maybe I should start looking into that option hehe). I'm currently on the Free Creative Cloud Plan (that's what my Adobe account profile says). I got this by subscribing on the Premium feature from Lightroom mobile app directly, which is slightly cheaper than the 1TB  Lightroom Plan that Adobe offers on their website. 

I'm really interested in the Lightroom Photography Plan as I feel that I'm ready to upgrade from the limited features that Lightroom Mobile (I believe it's now Lightroom CC? CMIIW) to the Lightroom Classic CC. However it only comes in either 20GB (which is not enough as I currently have 50GB on my Lightroom) or the 1TB (which I think is too expensive for a hobbyist like me). I wish Adobe would come up with an in-between plan (maybe 500GB?) to give more options for photography enthusiasts like me :) 
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Antoine Hlmn

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You could also ask for a plan without Photoshop, if you don't want to pay for a software you won't be using ;-)

Will Adobe hear you out? Wait and see ;-)
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Unless you really want to have your images in the cloud you can use Lightroom Classic and store files locally. I'be got over 4Tb of files on my local disks  and keep virtually nothing in the cloud.
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* Unless you want full res files in the cloud ;-)

Agreed, that’s also how I use LR: everything excepted videos synced down from Classic.
Warning: be EXTREMELY careful about management: there is NO WAY to distinguish  full res images from smart previews, thus which images count in the 20 Go or 1 To quota! (Bug reported long time ago, by the way...)

However, I would NOT recommend to use this from scratch for many reasons: Classic is old and slow, receives very few decent updates and none regarding sync, ... the new LR is the cloudy LR, despite what marketing might be saying.

To me, this is ok for long term LR Classic users not needing sync or not wanting (or too lazy, like me) to switch to something else, being Cloudy or competition (On1 360, Capture One, DxO, ...).
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"Warning: be EXTREMELY careful about management: there is NO WAY to distinguish  full res images from smart previews, thus which images count in the 20 Go or 1 To quota! (Bug reported long time ago, by the way...)"

Really? How about this:

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That looks like cloudy. It’s not what Brian was talking about.
Outside of cloudy, there is, at least to my knowledge, no way to filter them and to remove images that might take up storage.
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Yes, this is indeed Lightroom desktop. But as that is part of the Lightroom Cloud ecosystem, why wouldn't it 'count' as an option to manage the cloud images?
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BTW, if your originals in the cloud are only the images you shot with your iPhone, then you'll have a simple way: Lightroom automatically creates a 'Lr Camera Photos' section (just below 'All Photos').
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Not sure as I remember Adobe saying both apps should NOT be used at the same time. The migration tool (from Classic to cloudy) is supposed to be used only once. I don’t know weather or not the tool allows to migrate from cloudy to Classic, but I doubt it does. Could cloudy be used to manage only cloud based images and not mess with the “Classic workflow” ?

Sure, in the case your images are only shot with the smartphone. But it’s not the case if you import any image through SD card reader or from the camera roll. And anyways, the story remains the same: there is no way to distinguish images in full res taking up space in the quota from smart previews synced from Classic.

And even worse, it can get really nasty: I once started to sync images from Classic to the cloud BEFORE Classic had the time to sync with the cloud and delet the images. So the cloud decides not to create smart previews but to keep the originals. But I had NO WAY to figure out which one they were. The only solution was to re-sync 3 To (yes!) which took several days.
(note: my workflow, when syncing from mobile is: import on mobile, sync to cloud, sync cloud to Classic, move and sort on Classic, remove from cloud, sync from Classic to cloud)

And then you have customer service and Rikk saying “it’s not a bug, it’s by design”.
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"Not sure as I remember Adobe saying both apps should NOT be used at the same time."
No, they have not encouraged using both. That's different from saying they recommend not doing so.
If you do load Cloudy, it's reads the stuff you've synced from Classic just like you're using the iOS or Android apps. But Johan's right - it's the one way to identify originals in the cloud.

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Thanks John! I’ll keep it in mind if I ever encounter that issue again!
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I don't see a need to use the desktop Lightroom program to manage cloud storage.  On my iPhone, I can tell if an image is a smart preview or an original by displaying the image and then touching the cloud icon. At the top, there is a report of whether the image is a Smart Preview or Original for both local and cloud storage. I don't see a way to filter on that status.
I have an album set up for Auto-import from my Camera Roll (name is _From Camera Roll). And the automatic "album" called Lr Camera Photos holds the images captured with the Lightroom camera (and only those). I don't move any of those images to other albums (though they may end up in albums created by synced collections from Lightroom Classic). If I just delete the contents of those 2 locations after images are synced to LR Classic and backed up, I've deleted all images that use the storage quota. I believe it's also necessary to then go into Deleted in LR on the device and permanently delete the images there to free up quota space before they automatically vanish after 60 days. Do the same procedure on other devices where you've imported into Lightroom on the device.
Bottom line: The 20 GB storage quota has been plenty for me using Lightroom Classic and mobile devices.
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I don't see a need to use the desktop Lightroom program to manage cloud storage.  On my iPhone, I can tell if an image is a smart preview or an original by displaying the image and then touching the cloud icon. At the top, there is a report of whether the image is a Smart Preview or Original for both local and cloud storage. I don't see a way to filter on that status.
I have an album set up for Auto-import from my Camera Roll (name is _From Camera Roll). And the automatic "album" called Lr Camera Photos holds the images captured with the Lightroom camera (and only those). I don't move any of those images to other albums (though they may end up in albums created by synced collections from Lightroom Classic). If I just delete the contents of those 2 locations after images are synced to LR Classic and backed up, I've deleted all images that use the storage quota. I believe it's also necessary to then go into Deleted in LR on the device and permanently delete the images there to free up quota space before they automatically vanish after 60 days. Do the same procedure on other devices where you've imported into Lightroom on the device.
Bottom line: The 20 GB storage quota has been plenty for me using Lightroom Classic and mobile devices.
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I'm unsure how much data (photos) traffic you'll be generating but I find the 20TB works for me. I am not a Pro but use LR Mobile while I'm on a trip - for instance our last trip to W Australia I took about 500 or more photos - some on an iPhone but mainly raw from my Fuji X-Pro2 and a Ricoh GRIII. When I'm home, after performing preliminary but not unsubstantial edits in LRM, I move the images from Adobe Cloud to my HD inside Lightroom Classic and then remove from the cloud.

BTW I still have 650 raw photos in the Adobe Clould consuming "just" 13GB.
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Sure, as Brian and I said, it does work. But:

1) You have to be very careful with management in order not to mix images.
2) 20 Go is fine, but it can take ages to sync and there is no offline sync option
3) If you go over the 20 Go, which storage of mobile devices nowadays allows, you have to sync by chunks of 20Go and remove the already synced images. Quite cumbersome. Remember, there’s no way to take 1 To for like a month.

I’ve suggested to implement a function where you’d only import (not copy!) images from an sd card and work on smart previews. Only the catalog would be synced and back home, you could just copy the originals onto the hard drive. Therefore, no more storage issue on portable device and painstakingly long sync (upload AND download, currently the only option).
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Jessica: you DON"T NEED 500GB or 1TB! 20GB is plenty, because: you're NOT putting all your images in the cloud (you're using LR Classic, as you should)! You create Collections and add the images you're currently editing (so you can edit in the park), and when you're done you delete them from the Cloud (by removing those images from the Collection). I'm a pro sports/fine art photographer, I take 5-10K shots a year, and I'm using 15 of my 20GB. Anytime I want more, I just do a cleanup of stuff I'm no longer editing, and get back to 5GB or so.
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Carlos:
Upon further research last night, I think this is what I'm planning to do :) I guess this quarantine time has at least taught me something haha

I guess I should at least start with the free trial and get used to the whole workflow by trying to migrate some photos from the cloud to the HD.

And thank you everyone for the inputs! 
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@Carlos, how do you manage segregation between full res and smart previews ? I’m reserving a Floder (mobile nomenclature) for full res files imported on the mobile device. All other albums are synced from Classic, are thus smart previews and thus does not count in the storage quota.

@Jssica: sorry but I’m not 100% sure: are you using Classic our LR “cloudy” on desktop ? Those behave very differently!
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@Antoine: I'm planning to purchase the U$9.99 Photography Plan which would give me the 2020 version of LR Classic CC with 20GB or cloud storage. 



 
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Ok, you have accès to both LR apps anyway (as PS), but be aware those are totally different softwares, and are not ment to be used together. It’s more the one or the other. (Except for what John mentioned above). Just wanted to make sure what you are signing for. ;-)
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I would dispute the idea that 'they are not meant to use used together'  I use them together a lot, if you're not using them together then you're missing out on a lot.
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But maybe not for beginner phtotographers, which Jessica said she was.
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@Antoine: I don't fully understand your "manage segregations" question. I don't typically need (or want) to import in the field to an iPad, it would eat up my 20GB if I did! I would import to a separate catalog on my laptop in the field, and then import the catalog to my main catalog at home.
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That’s if you work with a laptop on the field. I want to travel light and take only an iPad, sometimes for a couple of weeks. So, yes, it eats the 20 Go, but that’s the game. But I don’t care about that limit, as syncing so much an amount of data is pointless if you have the SD cards... The real pain is to sync that back, and it’s even worse if you go above the 20 Go ! But my current iPad hasn’t that much storage, so I’m not even using Lr mobile on the field. Too bad, and that’s also why I suggested that “import without moving” option as there is on Classic. This would solve both storage AND sync issue.