Lightroom Classic CC: performance degradation

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Ever since Lightroom 5.0 this application has been suffering from severe performance degradation after a certain time of normal use, involving simple browsing, rating, tagging, etc. Editing isn't even part of the equation - but it'll sure surface the problem sooner.
After a while of this totally normal use, Lightroom gets slower and slower, and starts demnanding more and more memory. It also uses incredible CPU loads for no good reason, draining my battery much faster than it ought to.
The Lightroom 6.14 update has come out recently. The problem IS STILL THERE, after several YEARS of updates.
I'd like to know why this problem isn't being fixed, while LR is being updated with other nonsense. How is it decided to keep severe performance bugs in the software, while adding features? Priority of issues seems really skewed here.
And before you make the suggestion: this problem persists with a new catalog.
I've used Windows 7, Windows 10 with al the major updates. I've used every single Lightroom update from 5.0 onwards. Makes no difference.
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This is posted in the Lightroom CC Forum - moving it to Lightroom Classic CC forum. 
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This problem is with Lightroom 6.14. There is no "classic" in the title anywhere. I don't know what Lightroom Classic is.
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This is the forum for the Lightroom CC Product versions 1.0 and later first released in October 2017. 

All previous iterations of Lightroom (Versions 1-6) and Lightroom CC2015 are now found in the Lightroom Classic Forum. 
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Sjeez, talk about confusion. Adobe is pretty good at that :(
Why can't we just have version 1.x-7.x? Why must old versions suddenly and arbitrarily be renamed? That's never happened in the past, for example when 6.0 came out, 5.x wasn't deemed "classic" either.
Either way, my product is called "Lightroom 6.14". So I will be posting in the Lightroom forum, not in the Lightroom Classic forum. I would consider that reserved for Lightroom 3 or something.
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> Why can't we just have version 1.x-7.x?

Lightroom 1-6 are no longer being updated so any fixes will have to go into LR Classic. Therefore there's not a lot of point having a separate bug forum for older versions.
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Older versions SHOULD get updated. Adobe is obligated to deliver a working product. A major upgrade requires purchasing a new product (or a goddamn subscription), while it is THEIR fault and THEIR bug to solve.

Just look at Microsoft, fixing bugs and whatnot TEN YEARS after release. They don't go "just upgrade to Windows whatever" because that's a paid upgrade. Requiring payment to have a bug fixed is just simply, not done.
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I don't know if LR6 ever will profit from it, but LR Classic CC will get performance improvements witrh version 7.2 - so with next minor release:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/6947305878/adobe-is-preparing-a-major-lightroom-classic-performance-up...
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Afaik, that's a paid upgrade. This bug has existed for as much as 22 updates including 1 major update (5.7->6.0). If we have to pay to get this problem fixed, that would be unacceptable.
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Yes, it's not for free - more than that it's the switch from a buyed license to a monthly fee for a subscription license.
I don't think that there will be any corrections to LR6 as this is not the strategy of Adobe - it's the cloud now.
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I don't need a subscription. I *always* work *completely* offline. I don't even want any of my stuff in the cloud. Why would I?

I'm sure Lightroom 7 will be available as a purchase. If not, then I'll be forced to install an illegal version, because a subscription is just simply not going to happen for me.

But that's not the point. The point is that Adobe fixes this problem. Whether they do that in 6.15 or 7.2 is up to them, but I'm going to require them to have it fixed for free, given how ridiculously long this problem has been haunting us. So if they refuse to fix it in 6.15, they going to have to give me an upgrade. If not I'll install it illegally. Either way, they loose. They made it this far without fixing the problem. Now they must eat the consequences.
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Also "performance improvements" means nothing if this doesn't mean fixing the memory leak problem I described. I might be that it just takes longer before the problem surfaces.
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@martijn - Lightroom 7 will not be available as a stand-alone purchase. Adobe has already publicly announced this last October.  All future versions of any type of Lightroom will be subscription. 
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That is unfortunate. Also more expensive, no doubt.


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Yep. One-time purchase was €125, and the subscription is €12/month. Since any major version lasts about two years at least, a two year subscription totals in at €288.
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You get Photoshop too.
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I don't need Photoshop. And I can't give it away, since it's DRM-like subscription nonsense.
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Your cost comparison is still misleading.

I did some tests yesterday generating 1:1 previews for 100 24mp Fuji raw files and found LR is now 68% faster than 6.14. Anyone can run such simple tests for themselves - without even subscribing.
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Which version is 68% faster than 6.14?? 
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The point is not that one thing is faster in the newer version!The point is whether the new version still degrades in performance after have working on many pictures.
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The point is that performance degradation only affects some users. While this needs to be addressed, Adobe can't be expected to hold back new features or performance improvements that we all benefit from.
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And the point is that it WON'T be addressed. If 6.14 will be the last version, Lightroom 6 will have this issue for the rest of eternity. 7.x is a paid upgrade (a bloody subscription program as well, which is roughly twice as expensive over a span of 2 years!!) and paying for them to fix an issue that has been around for YEARS (and has been reported back when) is "not done" as we call it.

So no matter how you put it, Adobe has bollocksed up.
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If Adobe fixes this problem in Lightroom 7 (and not in 6.15), I say let's all install that one illegally. It's the only way to illustrate to Adobe what a mess they've made. They've had YEARS to fix this problem and they've done NOTHING about it.

If we have to pay for them fixing this bug by upgrading to 7, essentially, then there's something fundamentally wrong with how they treat their customers, and by extension, their products.
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Hi Martijn, You are 'flogging a dead horse' in your anti-subscription rant. Adobe is making much more money by selling subscriptions than from one-off payments, and it won't be long before your OS and other programs are sold in the same way. You may be unhappy, but millions are happy with the subscription to LR and Photoshop for far less than both one-off payments, assuming you update regularly.

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I don't get it. It is more expensive. How does that make people happy?!