Lightroom: Panorama needs Adaptive Wide Angle functionality

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Lightroom: "Panorama" isn't fully useful without Photoshop's "Adaptive Wide Angle". Too many panoramas need further processing to make straight lines straight.
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Which is a good reason to sign up for the Photography Plan for $10/month, right?
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Actually, no.

I'm thinking quite a lot of people are already in the plan. That means the only benefit of Lightroom now having panorama and HDR merge functions is that the resulting files retain their "raw" format, which is mainly a question of better metadata (like white point data, profile data, etc.)

If Lightroom panorama isn't usable because I still need to do it in Photoshop, that means I'm throwing money at Adobe to do things that doesn't benefit me.

So it's really a reason to not sign up for the plan, because then I'd actually get something I'd use.
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The problem also is that a pano from LR cannot be processed in Adaptive Wide angle.....
Although AWA recognized the camera (a Canon 50D), it does not correct the distorsion! If I make the same pano in Photoshop, AWA works perfectly.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Adaptive Wide Angle tool in Lightroom.

Could you add a tool, similar to Adaptive Wide Angle in Photoshop into Lightroom lens corrections, where it would allow us to draw horizontal, vertical and straight lines to adjust the photos like it does in Photoshop but without having to bring every photo into Photoshop just for that adjustment?
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OK, so Adobe told me on Twitter to post a feature request so that we get Adaptive Wide angle in Lightroom... What's the point if people have been asking for 2 years and they don't act on it??
Anyway: using Photoshop for that means switching to PSD and abandoning RAW, and adds another step to my workflow. So, please Adobe, add Adaptive Wide Angle to Lightroom.
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You have guided Upright in LR/CR, which is very similar to AWA.  If you really, truly want LR to become as complex and full-featured as PS, then why do you want LR? I thought when they created LR, it was to to fill the need of professional photographers for quick and efficient basic editing and output. People who needed more were expected to use PS, and while it wasn't easy at first, it became easy to enter PS and come back again to LR, catalog intact.

If all you LR users keep insisting that Adobe only has to add this PS feature and that PS feature to LR to make LR palatable, what do you suppose will happen to "quick, easy, and efficient?" LR users are already complaining it isn't running the way it used to.

If you have used AWA, you know it can become anything but simple very quickly, whereas for simpler needs, Upright remains very easy and efficient to use. It's an adapted Adaptive Wide Angle feature. I use it in CR all the time, saving AWA for when Upright isn't able to work well enough. So like LR users, I use PS's "develop" module (Camera Raw), then go into PS for what CR can't do.
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Guided Upright is not at all similar to Adaptive Wide Angle. Guided Upright can only correct for perspective by changing the direction of straight lines. Adaptive Wide Angle corrects for curved lines as well.

What you can do however is send the panorama to Photoshop as a smart object, and use AWA there. That way you'll keep your non-destructive edits and still have AWA corrections.
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> Guided Upright can only correct for perspective by changing the direction of straight lines. Adaptive Wide Angle corrects for curved lines as well.>

True, which is when it definitely steps out of the realm of being a fairly simple correction to basic issues with perspective. I don't always need to correct for curved lines. IMO, adding Guided Upright enhanced dealing with simple  issues in Camera Raw significantly. It reduced the need to go into Photoshop often enough to be worth adding it, but adding one PS advanced feature after another to PS is going to greatly impact LR's original mission of having something faster and simpler that photographers could use for most of the daily work. It may already have, judging from complaints about it.

> What you can do however is send the panorama to Photoshop as a smart object, and use AWA there. That way you'll keep your non-destructive edits and still have AWA corrections.>

It's editable in CR in Photoshop, yes. But whatever way you round trip, I don't see any way to keep your non-destructive edits in the same file as AWA (or any filter) in LR, unless you're now willing to open in Photoshop and then in Camera Raw, no?  You've "abandoned raw", as Sebastien said. The extra steps and returning a PSD were what Sebastien was objecting to by not having AWA inside LR as a non-destructive edit.
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He may be objecting to it, but that's the only way he can get Adaptive Wide Angle corrections right now. And by using a smart object the corrections are non-destructive, even though you indeed have to make a round trip to Photoshop again if you want to change something.