Lightroom metadata editing bugs (or features which are inconsistent!)

  • 1
  • Problem
  • Updated 2 years ago
1. When you cursor is in a metadata field in the right-hand column a tap on the up arrow should take me to the beginning of the field - it doesn't. I have to tap multiple times to add something at the start of the field or try to click very accurately with the mouse. When I am editing captions I add a generic caption to all images then go through them adding more detail. I tab between fields and my hands are on the keyboard so I don't want to use the mouse. Instead I want to tab to the next field (and select contents) then tap up to take me to the beginning to add detail to the general, Tapping up does not take me to the start of the field.

2. Related to (1). I might add " jumping a river" to all the images in a set, with a space at the beginning. Then I would go through the images one by one and add a name to the start of the field in the manner described in (1). This works in the Headline field - the space remains there - but I if I do the same in the Caption/Description field Lightroom removes the space! Why do it one field and NOT in the other. Don't do it at all. I put a space there for a reason - you DO NOT KNOW BETTER.

3. Selection issues. I select all the files in a folder and they appear to be selected in the thumbnail area but not in the main grid area. Applying changes to the files only changes the few highlighted in the grid are and not ALL as intended. See image for example.

Photo of Nico

Nico

  • 8 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
  • frustrated

Posted 2 years ago

  • 1
Photo of Tom Mickow

Tom Mickow

  • 279 Posts
  • 94 Reply Likes
Not sure what OS you're using, but here are a couple comments from the PC world..

1 - The up arrow moves the cursor up one line in a multi-line field.
Home moves the cursor to the beginning of the current line.
Ctrl + Home moves the cursor to the beginning of the field.
As far as I know, that's pretty common keyboard navigation in lots of apps - Lightroom, MS Word, etc.

Also, if you're moving from image to image and editing the same field, Ctrl + left/right arrow are very handy.  That combo will move you to another image and keep the focus on the same field you were just in, which is a real time saver when you're editing something like a caption for multiple images.

2 - Never needed/wanted to leave a leading space in the caption field, so I don't know if there's an elegant way around it.  The first thing that comes to mind would be to put an additional character in front, like "- jumping a river" and then just taking it out when you added the other text.  Yes, it's another keystroke, but might not be too bad, if you're moving around with the commands from #1.

3 - Hard for me to tell where you're at and what you've got selected based on the screenshot.  Perhaps you could add another one showing the selected folder in the left pane and images that are selected in the filmstrip, but not in the main grid view?

As long as you're in the grid view, applying a change to metadata fields, like keywords or caption, should be applied to all of the selected images.  I do this all the time and have never noticed a problem.  If you're in loupe view though, the change only applies to that image, even though numerous images appear selected in the filmstrip.  Any chance that's what you're seeing?
Photo of Rikk Flohr

Rikk Flohr, Official Rep

  • 3451 Posts
  • 624 Reply Likes
Reference your item 3 with the attached photo. That looks like a corrupted preference file.  You can reset your preference file by closing Lightroom. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] and relaunch Lightroom. When the preference file overwrite dialog appears, release the two keys and accept the prompt to overwrite your preference file. Close Lightroom. Restart your computer. Does the selection issue go away? 

Does the behavior of items 1 and 2 change after this reset?
Photo of Nico

Nico

  • 8 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Thanks for your replies guys, always helps to have some input.

Rikk, yes that seems to have helped with the some not all selected problem between the thumbnail view and the grid view.

Tom. Yes, Ctrl Home is a help, thank you. I have come back from being on a Mac for a while and I forget these things.

However I would go on to say that what I describe is definitely more prevalent. Visit any web form you like on a PC or mac and fill in a few fields. Ok so now you want to go to the next field above or below the current one to add something at the start of the field. Shift Tab to the one above or Tab to the one below, Ok so far. Content is selected but a click of the up arrow and I am ready to type at the beginning. A tap on the down arrow and you are ready to add on the end. The latter works in Lightroom, the former doesn't. So if I want to add at the end I click Down, easy. If I want to add at the beginning (the norm because I'm adding someone's name and having it early in the page title helps SEO) I have to do CTRL HOME. Not exactly consistent ;)

Your help with a replaceable character is also appreciated - good idea and one I will try. Still odd that Adobe saw fit to strip leading spaces from the Caption but not the Headline field!
Photo of Tom Mickow

Tom Mickow

  • 279 Posts
  • 94 Reply Likes
Doesn't really matter, but I don't think your web form example is totally correct.  Navigation with arrow keys in those can vary by browser.

If you stop thinking of using the up/down keys for anything other than actually moving up/down, I think you'll find more consistency.  For getting to the beginning or end, Home/End are the way to go.

Home - start of current line
End - end of current line
Ctrl + Home - start of field
Ctrl + End - end of field
Photo of Nico

Nico

  • 8 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Thanks Tom. Maybe my Mac version Tab, Up type routine was misplaced in the first place. Worked nicely and quickly though.