Lightroom: Incorrect documentation for stacking

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The Lightroom CC Help (7/26/2016) doesn't accurately describe the behavior of stacks since it was changed in LR 4 to allow stacking in collections.    I've tried to help a number of people who were confused by stacking, and it would be good if we could point them to the help.

Here's everything I found:

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Page 138: "Once created, virtual copies are automatically stacked with the master photo."

Add: If you create a virtual copy while in a collection, the copy will be stacked with the photo in its folder, not in the collection, and the stacking won't be visible when  viewing the collection.

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Page 138: "Tip: If the copy does not appear in the Grid view, the photos may be part of a collapsed stack. Try choosing Photo > Stacking > Expand All Stacks. If that doesn’t work, the photos may be filtered. Try using a different display method, such as choosing All Photographs in the Catalog panel."

Add: Make sure Library > Enable Filters is unchecked. [Users often don't understand what "may be filtered" means.]

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Page 139: "note: You cannot edit stacks when working with collections. You must view stacks in their folders to expand, collapse, and manage them."

Incorrect, replace: When working with a stack created by Create Virtual Copy, it won't be visible unless you've selected the folder containing the master or you're in All Photographs.  You cannot view, expand, collapse, or edit such a stack when viewing a collection.

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Page 149: "You cannot stack photos in a collection."

Incorrect, replace: You can stack photos in a collection, but you cannot stack photos from different collections or from collections and folders. A stack created in a collection will only be visible when viewing that single collection.

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Page 154: "Group photos into stacks"

Add: Stacks are specific to the folder or collection in which they were created. The photos in a stack must all be from the same folder or the same collection; you cannot create stacks while in a smart collection or published collection. 

You can only view a stack in a folder when that folder (and possibly other folders) is selected as a source, or when All Photographs is selected. You can only view a stack in a collection when just that one collection is selected as a source. Stacks are never visible when a mix of folders and collections is selected.

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Page 155: "Note: Stacked photos must be located in the same folder."

Replace: Stacked photos must be located in the same folder or the same collection. You cannot stack photos while in a smart collection or published collection.

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Page 156: "Lightroom can automatically stack photos in a folder based on their capture time."

Replace: Lightroom can automatically stack photos in a folder or collection based on their capture time.

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Page 156: "Select a folder in the Folders panel. Lightroom auto-stacks all photos in the folder regardless of which photos are selected in the content area or the Filmstrip."

Replace: Select a folder in the Folders panel or a collection in the Collections panel. Lightroom auto-stacks all photos in the folder or collection regardless of which photos are selected in the content area or the Filmstrip.

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Page 175: "Note: Lightroom stacks the capture frame with the video clip. To view the capture frame, expand the stack in the Grid view of the Library module. Be sure you are not viewing Previous Import in the Catalog panel."

Replace: Lightroom stacks the capture frame with the video clip. The stack is only visible when viewing All Photographs or the folder containing the clip. If you captured the frame while in a collection, the frame will be added to the collection but the stack will only be visible when in All Photographs or the containing folder. Neither the frame nor the stack will be visible when viewing smart collections, published collections, Quick Collection, Previous Import, or other built-in collections.

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Page 229: "If the exported photos are part of an image stack, and you’re exporting to the same folder as the original, check Add To Stack to include the re-imported photo with the original stack."

Incorrect, replace with: If you're exporting to the same folder as the original, check Add To Stack to stack the re-imported photo with the original. If you're exporting while viewing a collection, the stack will be created in the containing folder and only visible when that folder or All Photographs is selected as a source.

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Page 245: "Note: Select Stack With Original to stack the edited photo with the original." [Occurs twice]

Incorrect, replace with: Select the option Preferences > External Editing > Stack With Original to stack the edited photo with the original in the containing folder. If you edit a photo while viewing a collection, two stacks will be created, one in the folder and one in the collection. 
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John,
PLEASE fill out an employment application to Adobe. They desperately need someone like you who truly understands their own LR product. :)
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Thanks John! I've asked our documentation folks to take a look at your suggestions.
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Great.
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Excellent, the Lightroom Classic User Guide incorporates these changes. LR's folder- and collection-specific stacking behavior is confusing and inconsistent, and this will help those of us who help others.
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All the changes were incorporated except one:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/open-lightroom-photos-external-applications.html

There were two occurrences of:

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Page 245: "Note: Select Stack With Original to stack the edited photo with the original." [Occurs twice]
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but only the first one was corrected.  The second one should have the same correction applied: 

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Note: To stack the edited photo with the original in the containing folder, select Edit(Win)/Lightroom Classic CC (macOS) > Preferences > External Editing > Stack With Original. If you edit a photo while viewing a collection, two stacks will be created, one in the folder and one in the collection.
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