Lightroom Classic: Cropping ratio

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I know others have brought this up, but I can unlock the crop tool, pick a crop ratio and then close the lock, but the next photo I go to reverts to the original ratio. This is ridiculous. If I choose an aspect ratio, it should stay there until I change it. This has gone on for years, and still works like that with LR CC v9.0 and Mac OS Catalina.
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It reverts to the ratio of that picture, 3/2, 4/3, whatever. It is a New picture. If you go back to the one you set the crop ratio on it would be what you set it to.
Yes it is because that is the way it is Supposed to Be.
If it was changed to what you want 99% of other users wouldn't like it.
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The current crop aspect ratio is assigned in metadata for every image. Initially that is the original full pixel dimensions. If you crop, the crop aspect ratio, size and location are preserved in the metadata. The last value used is what you see whenever you open any image in crop mode. Previously cropped images do not open as “original”. You would not want them to open with the last used crop window either. You want to initially see the crop that has been applied. This is what LR shows
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Then I don't know what the lock is for, and apparently neither does the Adobe tech support person I talked to. In my case I shoot football and basketball games professionally and I have to edit and upload photos at halftime very quickly. It would be much faster if I could lock the desired crop ratio at 16:9 and have it stay there. I can do a workaround by setting my camera at 16:9 which essentially solves the problem, but LR should still have the capability of locking in the ratio if desired. (It would also have been nice if Sony and Adobe had gotten their acts together and updated Camera RAW to recognize RAW files on the new a9 IIs before they were released.)
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The Lock simply locks or unlocks the select Aspect Ratio preset.   If you choose 4:5 aspect ratio, then the crop window id fixed to 4:5 no matter what or where your resize window is positioned.  Unlock it and you go into free aspect ratio and resize a side at a time.  The aspect ratio preset changes from what ever the preset name was before to "Custom" 
Sometimes the Adobe tech support that you get in chat or on the phone is pretty dim witted and soon get lost if you get off script. 
RAW images are at the native sensor size when it comes to aspect ratio.  Presetting 16:9 in camera only applies to JPEGs   Depending upon the camera Model, If you choose a JPEG aspect ration other than the full sensor AND shoot RAW, you can use the "As Shot" aspect ratio preset in LR to get the preset chose in the camera for camera processed images and it will be applied to your RAW image because it is that value stored in the imported file metadata. 
In develop, you can copy the previous develop setting and limit this to ONLY the crop settings and opening a new image use the "Paste Settings" or "Paste setting from Previous"What you can not do is  create a develop setting preset of only the crop parameters.   If you could, you could in batch apply this develop preset to a whole group of selected images.  This would be a "nice to have" option 
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  • Select a group of items in Grid.
  • Go to Quick Develop Panel
  • Expand arrow to right of Preset Pull down,
  • Select Crop Ratio
  • Go to Develop
  • Inspect Crop on these images
All of these images are now locked to the specific ratio desired (with an unlock button just in case you need to alter the ratio.) 
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"...I can unlock the crop tool, pick a crop ratio and then close the lock..."

Sounds like you may be confused on the function of the lock.  You're not locking that particular crop ratio in the Lr interface for use in all image editing until you unlock it.  You're just changing the behavior of the cropping boundary box.  When the locked, the boundary box will only expand/contract in the aspect ratio you have selected.  When unlocked, the boundary box can be freely adjusted to any custom crop you'd like.  The process of "unlock the crop tool, pick a crop ratio and then close the lock" really wouldn't ever apply.

"If I choose an aspect ratio, it should stay there until I change it."

I totally disagree with that statement.  The aspect ratio absolutely should be maintained & change per image.  It would be a complete mess if the crop ratio stayed the same when going from a headshot that's cropped at 1x1 to a landscape that's 16x9 and vice versa.

Both of those points aside, there is some weirdness with the lock state when moving between images that have/haven't been edited.  There's more info on that behavior here - Lightroom: Crop lock reverts when changing to next picture

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I shoot RAW and not jpeg. If I set the camera to 16:9 then in Develop mode when I select the Crop tool the photos show up with the 16:9 ratio window superimposed on the full frame image and the aspect ratio option says As Shot. This actually works in my favor because even if I accidentally clip off the top of someones head as viewed in 16:9, I can scroll up and include it in the frame.

I tried Rikk's method and that may solve the problem too.
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And yes, all of you are correct as to the function of the lock. I was wrong about that.